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Mags to Spokes

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Hello all...this is my first post, so here goes. I have a 1980 gs750e with mags and want to put spoke wheels on. Is there any wheel that will bolt right on, such as a 78 750,or a 77 750, or whatever... any help here would be greatly appreciated !
 
Why??????????????????? Never had a mag wheel break, many a spokes though.
 
Spokes are the bee's knees the quintessence of motorcycleositry.
 
Spokes mean tubed tires and I'll pass on those all day long-
Bust a tube at highway speeds and your not going to end well- a tubeless will leak down slow enough to get off the road. My experience.
 
Badooka said:
Bust a tube at highway speeds and your not going to end well- a tubeless will leak down slow enough to get off the road. My experience.
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Wah wah. They can both go flat slowly or very fast.
If you are afraid to ride you shoudn't ride on any wheels.
Spokes are great. Lighter weight, looks like a motorcycle should look.
 
I have done this to my GS550E, I used GT550 wheels. Front bolted straight on and even accommodated a second disk.

The rear had top be converted from a disk to a drum. I needed to make up some spacers and weld a bracket underneath for the torsion arm.

I agree, I think they look better.

Wheels, tubes, tyres and other bits and bobs, total cost ?200!

The spacer between the rear hub and the sprocket carrier needs to be milled down too by 10mm on the edge that goes through the carrier and the wider edge. You will know what I mean when you come to do it.

PM me if you want more pix on this.
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tkent02 said:
Wah wah. They can both go flat slowly or very fast.
If you are afraid to ride you shoudn't ride on any wheels.
Spokes are great. Lighter weight, looks like a motorcycle should look.
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Don't try and call me weak, moron-
I said it was my experience- spoke wheels will deflate immediately- a mag rim is sealed or maybe that's beyond your comprehension.
Yeah you can add a baseball card to the spokes, a slide bell and a basket with a flower on it too- looks nice as well.
 
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I have had sevearal tubeless tires blow out instantly. You are full of it no matter how slowly you type.
 
Yeah I'm full of it- you have an axe to grind with me and that's fine- grind away -
Fact is a tube is inferior to a modern day tubeless tire- jets, cars or . No. High speed is done better tubeless
 
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I have no axe to grind, the OP wants spokes, and asked a question about finding wheels.

Spoked wheels and tubes are fine 99,99% of the time, just like alloy wheels and tubeless tires...

And both can go flat slowly or instantly.
 
dark7068 said:
huh, 6 second drag cars use tubes.
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Very true- they operate almost opposite of what we want- where they need weight and the tube to absorb the heat as they rip off the line-

Street car "slicks" are typically designed as tube-type tires. There are a number of reasons for this, but safety is a primary concern. In addition, a tube helps to maintain air pressure. It's not uncommon for a tubeless fastest street car tire to deflate quickly (that even includes several of the more streetable types with a full complement of tread). Tubes will enhance the reaction time, increase the stiffness of the tire, and reduce sidewall shock and deflection when launching the car. Finally, the manufacturers polled claim that a tube helps with consistency, since the tube actually absorbs some of the heat from the tire. In a bike, absorbing heat into a tubless/tube tire actually reduces your heat range and the life of the tire- so it's counter productive. Granted there are a multitude of custom applications out there but in more times than not the new technology in tubeless, is better. This is off topic from the spoke rims but this happens sometimes

In general, tubeless tires do not need tubes, and you do yourself a dis-service by using tubes with tubeless tires. Tubes reduce the flexibility of tubeless tires, thereby increasing rolling resistance. This then consumes a bit more energy to make it go, which will consume a bit more fuel. The worse part is that this extra energy is turned into heat in the tire, and tires don't like extra internal heat. This could shorten the life of the tire rather dramatically if you run it anywhere near it's maximum load or speed rating.

As a rule of thumb, if you put tubes in tubeless tires you should de-rate the tire by one letter grade, or about 18 mph (30 kph) off of the rated 10-minute top speed. If you're talking about installing an "H"(auto) (rated tire (130 mph) , you hardly have much to worry about if it gets de-rated by 18 mph to 112 mph 10-minute top speed capability.

If you want spokes by all means use them, I just don't get it- other than aesthetics.
 
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I use tubes in both my bikes with tubeless tires on non tubeless type mag rims. I put tubes in them because the mags are not rated for tubeless, doesn't have that extra lip or whatever, and the parts fiche shows tubes.
Item 16,
http://www.boulevardsuzuki.com/fich...y=Motorcycles&make=SUZUKI&year=1978&fveh=2146
I once had a rear tire blow-out on a Honda with spoke rims and tube. Tire pressure went to zero immediately at 70mph, that was fun, I'm sure the passenger enjoyed it too.
 
sedelen said:
I use tubes in both my bikes with tubeless tires on non tubeless type mag rims. I put tubes in them because the mags are not rated for tubeless, doesn't have that extra lip or whatever, and the parts fiche shows tubes.
Item 16,
http://www.boulevardsuzuki.com/fich...y=Motorcycles&make=SUZUKI&year=1978&fveh=2146
I once had a rear tire blow-out on a Honda with spoke rims and tube. Tire pressure went to zero immediately at 70mph, that was fun, I'm sure the passenger enjoyed it too.
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My point exactly-
 
With spoked wheels you can lace up wider rims. I have 2 sets. 1 with a 18'' front. Turns a little quicker, no clearance issues.
 
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