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the arrow pointing down is where the oil was coming from after leaked from the seal then from there the wind from riding would catch it and blow it back to my shoe on the footpeg the other arrow. its not a lot just enough to aggrevate you :(. does anyone know what the opening is for on the bottom of the cover? notice the seal is still dry this after i had wiped it down and it has been sitting for a few hours.
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its the one that fools everybody lol. I tripled checked this one before I put it in. it looks backwards but it is in correct...:)
 
Wow, a two valve plain bearing 650, I thought all 650's were roller bearing. Are you sure that seal is in the right way? usually there are lips facing outwards:confused:
 
Hey brother Dave, I hate to say it but I did not put my new seal in that way, and no leaks from mine. It really does look backwards....anyway, wrong or not its leaking so its gotta go. I would order another from suzuki.
 
There was a thread a while ago, that seal was in backwards on the bike pictured in the manual.
I think it was a GS 1000, but it's worth checking into.
The hole is to let any leaking oil drip out before it takes out the ignition.
 
the old one was in this way and according to the service manual pic its why I put it in this way.....:mad:
I just checked my microfiche and it shows it in the other like you say bribird. Heres another shot from my service manual. Are we saying that all the pix of this are wrong in the service manual? Tell me it isnt so pleeeeeeeeeeeze :-k.
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ok I went to the garage and stared at this thing for awhile. looking at the pic of the seal.... if it was in the other way basically the open side to the back (reverse of pic) the inner seal where the spring goes around it would then be towards the outer edge of the shaft. If you look at the shaft you can see its tapered on the end. therefore the inner part of the seal with the spring would not be resting on that taper. whatever the width of the inner seal is versus the width from the end of the shaft inwards minus the taper is all it would cover. the inner seal sits closer to the face (the solid face and not the open side) and since it does this it would seem to me that that inner seal on the shaft would sit farther inwards and more on the flat part of the shaft with the way its put in now and seals a wider area. ....did I explain that good? I think my service manual is showing it right and maybe I just happen to get a junk seal. And oh its not ging to leak not running cause the oil level is way below this seal. I could have watched that all night and not seen it leak lol.
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Are you sure it is coming from the seal and not the outer circumferance? Did you use sealant on the outer of the seal?
 
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yes for sure its coming from the inner seal and i put some suzuki bond on the outer edges of the seal before i joined the cases. I did that just to be on the safe side :). never figured it would leak on the inside. also put a little oil on the inner before I slid it on just so it wouldnt tear.
 
Ya, I used threebond on mine as well, might be a bugger to get back out:(:confused:
 
Hey Dave, I have never had a seal that the inner lip rode on a taper...ever. I use my manual for info a lot, but at the same time I was a auto mechanic for 12 years and never seen a seal installed like that, so when it cam to to install the seal I did not even look at the manual since I have installed ,I dont know how many over the years. I wish I would have warned you about that, but I did not even see the mistake in the manual til you said something. Or it might be that the seal itself has gone thru a redesign like our bearings in the 650 motors and the old seal looked and fit differently.
Sorry for the trouble your having having, but it is a pretty easy fix at least.
 
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