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Mounting an 1150 oil cooler on a 1100E

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I have an 1150 oil cooler that I will be mounting on my 83 1100E machine. I have the remaining connection parts on order, including the famed 1150 oil filter cover. I would like to see some pictures of members' bikes mounting the 1150 coolers on a 1100 bike. I checked at the Brown County Rally, but there were no examples to see.
Thanks in advance.
 
Just a comment. You MUST use the 1150 oil filter cover. The passages are different in it than they are in the 1100 cover.

E.


koolaid_kid said:
I have an 1150 oil cooler that I will be mounting on my 83 1100E machine. I have the remaining connection parts on order, including the famed 1150 oil filter cover. I would like to see some pictures of members' bikes mounting the 1150 coolers on a 1100 bike. I checked at the Brown County Rally, but there were no examples to see.
Thanks in advance.
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koolaid_kid said:
...I have the remaining connection parts on order, including the famed 1150 oil filter cover...
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Done already, please. The 1150 cover is what is known as a restrictor plate in the racing world. There is actually another way to do this, but I chose the easy way. Again, I request photos.
 
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earlfor said:
Just a comment. You MUST use the 1150 oil filter cover. The passages are different in it than they are in the 1100 cover.
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Actually, this is incorrect. What the 1150 cover does is restrict the flow of oil to the filter, forcing it into the cooler. A restrictor plug, such as a drilled rubber plug, will do the same thing. Having said that, one must calculate the correct flow rate for the hole in the rubber plug in order to regulate the correct flow to the cooler versus the extra flow, which goes directly to the filter. I am not trying to argue this point, but misinformation on this issue is rampant and should be dispelled.
 
If you have a restrictor and oil flows in a different path, I think that would qualify as being different. An 1100 cover and an 1150 cover are not the same because they flow differently. Whch, is exactly what I said. If you use an 1100 cover, you will not get any flow through the oil cooler which makes the installation pointless.

Earl


koolaid_kid said:
Actually, this is incorrect. What the 1150 cover does is restrict the flow of oil to the filter, forcing it into the cooler. A restrictor plug, such as a drilled rubber plug, will do the same thing. Having said that, one must calculate the correct flow rate for the hole in the rubber plug in order to regulate the correct flow to the cooler versus the extra flow, which goes directly to the filter. I am not trying to argue this point, but misinformation on this issue is rampant and should be dispelled.
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I use the stock 1100 oil filter cover with a plug in the passage and I tapped into the two lower bolts below the oil filter cover that leads to the oil cooler. I can post a pic tomorow if anyone wishes.
 
chef1366 said:
I use the stock 1100 oil filter cover with a plug in the passage and I tapped into the two lower bolts below the oil filter cover that leads to the oil cooler. I can post a pic tomorow if anyone wishes.
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I wish, chef.

rj
 
Befind the oil filter cover on the left side there is a port that I plugged that forces the oil through the oil cooler.

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Sigh. This is exactly the discussion I was attempting to avoid. The oil flow can be restricted using the 1100 cover. It is not difficult, and the 1150 cover is NOT a requirement. I have found 2 web sites, one of which the pics are broken: http://oldskoolsuzuki.info/index.ht...installation/oil-cooler_installation.htm~main Another is around, but I cannot find it in this short notice, and it contains the pictures as well. If you examine the two covers, the 1100 and the 1150, the only difference is that the 1150 cover restricts the oil flow to the oil filter. That is the only difference. A correctly drilled rubber plug (price unknown) will do the same function as the 1150 cover (price twenty eight dollars).
earlfor, my request was for pictures, not a discussion of the differences of the covers. Please respond accordingly.
 
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Hey man, don't get your panties in a twist. I wanted to see the pics because I would like to know all of the options available.

rj
 
RJz1100E said:
Hey man, don't get your panties in a twist. I wanted to see the pics because I would like to know all of the options available.rj
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Dang, I gotta untwist them? But it feels so good...
Seriously, though. I want to see the pictures also. The debate about the cover/plug is one that has been ongoing for a long time. All I asked for is the pictures, not the debate. I guess we will see how things unfold. Or is that untwist?...
 
My original statement was that the covers are different, which they are. How they are different was not part of THAT point.
Anyway, I'm done with this.

E.


 
chef1366 said:
oilcooler004.jpg
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This last pic gives hints of how the oil cooler is mounted, which I think is what we're looking for -- it appears to be hanging from a bracket bolted to the frame.

Was it a home brew bracket? How is it attached to the frame?
 
On the front of the GS frame there are two bolt hole's which on later bikes the horns are attached.

A bracket could be made to support the oil cooler and utilise these bolt holes.

I think on the Katans's Suzuki did exactly that.

As for cover debate/knicker in a twist/heated tempers/ every body has personal experience and opinion. PLEASE respect others as it's too easy to loose knowledge and good will.

Suzuki mad

1981 GS1000ET
1983 GS(X)1100ESD
2002 GSF1200K1
 
Looking at the bike, the horn mounts seem to be the logical choice. I guess that brackets could be fabricated to suit.
I guess my major concern is the rubber cushioning. Suzi thought it important enough to spend money on it, so I think I should also.
 
bwringer said:
This last pic gives hints of how the oil cooler is mounted, which I think is what we're looking for -- it appears to be hanging from a bracket bolted to the frame.

Was it a home brew bracket? How is it attached to the frame?
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The bracket came with the Derale oil cooler. I have some extra taps if anyone needs them.
 
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