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Need wiring diagram for start circuit

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What you will be looking for is an "open" circuit. It could be a disconnected wire, a high resistance connection, a bad switch, or a bad ground connection.

Here is a 650G service manual with a wiring diagram on the last page in Chapter 7. Also there are some "limited" troubleshooting procedures in it.
Big File, 133MB. You'll see that "yellow/green" wire going from one side of the starter button, through the clutch safety switch all the way to your starter relay. The other side goes to a 10Amp fuse. Be sure to check all your fuses, as the ignition switch uses a 15 amp fuse.

http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/gs/GS650GManual.pdf
 
Could be a bad solinoid. A jumper from the bat to the activation terminal would give you an answer quick.
 
OK, since you now have the diagram and I am getting tired of pointing out the solution again, I will only add that the clutch "safety" switch is in series with the "button". If the clutch switch is bad and the connection is not bypassed as previously DETAILED, the button will not have a chance of working. Of course, the starter button itself could be bad, but you will find that sooner or later.

I'm outta here.
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Steve said:
OK, since you now have the diagram and I am getting tired of pointing out the solution again, I will only add that the clutch "safety" switch is in series with the "button". If the clutch switch is bad and the connection is not bypassed as previously DETAILED, the button will not have a chance of working. Of course, the starter button itself could be bad, but you will find that sooner or later.

I'm outta here.
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You must have missed the post when I said I BYPASSED THE SWITCH. And the bike still will not start with the button.
 
Ah, such a simple circuit. You'll get it eventually.
Some folks are slow learners.
Others are just slow.
 
tkent02 said:
Ah, such a simple circuit. You'll get it eventually.
Some folks are slow learners.
Others are just slow.
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agreed, but being 15* outside, I think Ill wait till it warms up a bit :p

Im still waiting on your guys's wizardary to tell me what the problem is, ya know, cause you all were so adament on the clutch switch....:?:
 
Apparently you guys are mistaking me for some newb and/or young kid who knows nothing. And tho I am a newb to this forum, I am not a new to life or bikes for that matter! I am very knowledgable and having the wiring diagram is all I need to get this thing figured out, which I will.
 
pooleo said:
Apparently you guys are mistaking me for some newb and/or young kid who knows nothing. And tho I am a newb to this forum, I am not a new to life or bikes for that matter! I am very knowledgable and having the wiring diagram is all I need to get this thing figured out, which I will.
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Go back to the Neutral Safety Switch.

By the way, the entire starter circuit takes less than an hour to repair, for those who listen to the troubleshooting help they are given.
 
tkent02 said:
Go back to the Neutral Safety Switch.

By the way, the entire starter circuit takes less than an hour to repair, for those who listen to the troubleshooting help they are given.
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You guys must be dislexic around here. Did you miss the post that I said its 15* out? I can wait till it warms up a bit!

And what trouble shooting help has been given........"its the clutch saftey switch, bypass it....blah, blah, blah.."
 
pooleo said:
You guys must be dislexic around here. Did you miss the post that I said its 15* out? I can wait till it warms up a bit!

And what trouble shooting help has been given........"its the clutch saftey switch, bypass it....blah, blah, blah.."
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We never said that was it, we said take a moment to check it. The first step to troubleshooting this very simple circuit.
By the way, you're a jackass.
 
tkent02 said:
We never said that was it, we said take a moment to check it. The first step to troubleshooting this very simple circuit.
By the way, you're a jackass.
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The first step is to get a proper working diagram!

As I already stated, I'm not going to go thru the whole song and dance of is it this, is it that, whats next, blah, blah, blah.

I asked for a diagram and any ideas. I got the ideas, thanks. I also got the diagram, even better. What the hell went up your ass and died...?

By the way, I did check it, and bypassed it and nothing changed!
 
pooleo said:
By the way, I did check it, and bypassed it and nothing changed!
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So we would have gone to the next step, if you weren't such a jackass.
You asked for a diagram or ideas, I have no diagram, so I gave you some ideas to **** on.
It's really a very simple circuit, you will eventually figure it out.
Push starting the 650 should help to keep you warm.
At least I think it would. I'm not sure, I haven't had to push start a GS, as all of my starters work perfectly.
 
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tkent02 said:
So we would have gone to the next step, if you weren't such a jackass.
You asked for a diagram or ideas, I have no diagram, so I gave you some ideas to **** on.
It's really a very simple circuit, you will eventually figure it out.
Push starting the 650 should help to keep you warm.
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You just dont get it do you, agian, you must have missed it. The part were I said " I'M NOT GOING TO GO THRU THIS WHOLE SONG AND DANCE OF IS IT THIS, IS IT THAT, WHATS NEXT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH"

And why would I push start it.... if I need to start it prior to finding the fault, I will jump the relay, dont be troll.
 
I think the troll is the person who refuses to listen to the advice given by guys with more combined experience on these bikes than you'll ever have.

Sorry to have helped you out if you're going to treat the advice given with your nose in the air.
 
tkent02 said:
OK. Spend the winter working on a one hour job, that's fine.
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lmao.....whos the jack ass now?

Your attacking me, because I have a PROJECT BIKE and will not spend an hour in 15* temps.....to please you? or something...?

I will get to it when I get to it. Its not life or death situation here.

So, for the last time! I HAVE MY DIAGRAM, THANKS FOR THE IDEA ON THE CLUTCH SAFTEY SWITCH, IT WAS NOT THE CULPRIT. WHEN I GET BACK TO THE BIKE, I WILL REPORT WHAT I FIND. WETHER I KNOW, OR DONT KNOW. IN THE EVENT I DONT KNOW OR CANT FIGURE IT OUT, I WILL POST FOR ANY MORE IDEAS. AS I WILL HAVE HAD EXHAUSTED ALL OF MINE BY LOOKING THRU THE WIRING, BOTH ON THE BIKE AND IN THE DIAGRAM!

Thank you god bless and GFY!
 
cowboyup3371 said:
I think the troll is the person who refuses to listen to the advice given by guys with more combined experience on these bikes than you'll ever have.

Sorry to have helped you out if you're going to treat the advice given with your nose in the air.
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I have taken the advice, the saftey switch was NOT the problem, were do you guys get im snubbing my nose! my god

I did also ask (for the sake of asking) WHATS NEXT!
 
This whole thread should have ended at post #6, when I said, THANKS! I have the diagram! lol
 
Have you taken a power light and checked for power at the kill switch/starter button? Have you bothered to look over the wiring inside the headlight bucket to make sure everything is still connected? Have you bothered to check for power at the fuse block to ensure you are getting power all the way there? Jumping at the solenoid skips all that OR did you bother to read ALL the posts?

Having a fricking wiring diagram won't tell you jack scch!t without actually looking at the damn bike in the process.
 
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