Newbie Hello and... here it comes... Help!

[russjgarner]

Hey whats up guys, I just want to introduce myself, names Russ and I live in central California. Land of smog and debt... I just bought an 83 GS850 for $350. It "kind of runs," when I bought it wasn't getting fuel, but cleaned out the tank and now it starts rough but wont idle really and runs like ****. So I did the research and figured you start with the intake O-Rings.

http://bwringer.com/gs/intakeorings.html

So I just took of the carbs and didn't even see the slot for O-rings. Am I crazy? Or are they so old and just melted/gone? Thanks for the help. You guys on here seem very knowledgeable and am grateful for the advice.

 

[kochic]

Hi, welcome,
Just remove the black flat ring and you will see the light.
marc

 

[Einstein]

Yep.. the black flat ring is/was the O ring.

 

[russjgarner]

Hi, welcome,
Just remove the black flat ring and you will see the light.
marc

Got ya, thanks. So is this O-ring melted or is this stock? Either way I'm ordering some new ones right now!

 

[russjgarner]

Hi, welcome,
Just remove the black flat ring and you will see the light.
marc

Cool, so I just discovered this one too... I've never seen it before. Any thoughts or comments?

 

[Big T]

Go to cycleorings.com and order the set for your carbs and the intake/head

Years of heat cycles lead to a non "O" ring like yours

That float post leads to an "interesting" float height

Use the Search feature about the float post - several people have fixes for that

Also, go up to the GS Owners forum, post up an introduction and BassCliff will send you a mega welcome and a link to his site, which will keep you reading for a day or two.

 

[Einstein]

You could use a very small drill, and insert a pin into the shaft... use a epoxy glue to hold it all together.. should last a few years, but for a permanent repair, you would have to replace the carb body.

 

[salty_monk]

Get some O rings from www.cycleorings.com

Robert will give you the ones for the boots (who knows if that's stock, looks sort of oversized) plus all the ones you need for the carbs too. Stainless allen bolts are well worth it for the boots, some replace the ones on the carbs too. He sells the ones for the boots from memory.

That post is a common problem cause by people trying to get the float pin out... Has it been repaired? You could drill the centre of both pieces & put some copper rod or similar in there & then glue with something that stands up to gas (not JB weld in my experience) or cross drill & pin it in place (I did the latter on a 550 & it worked out ok.

The best fix is a replacement carb body - Chef1366 might have one you could use.

Dan

 

[russjgarner]

Whew, lots of great info........ OK I'm browsing BikeCliffs site right now, so I might be holed up in the office for a while!

Salty monk, got the PM and will be getting back to you. Sounds fair.

Thanks guys!

 

[russjgarner]

Oh and my buddy just dropped these off at my house. They're from an 200? GSXR. My head is spinning, and the gears are turning at warp speed~!

 

[BassCliff]

Greetings and Salutations!!

Greetings and Salutations!!

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Please click here for your mega-welcome, chock full of tips, suggestions, links to vendors, and other information. Then feel free to visit my little BikeCliff website where I've been collecting the wisdom of this generous community. Don't forget, we like pictures! Not you, your bike!

Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[oshanac]

I have to disagree with salty monk

"That post is a common problem cause by people trying to get the float pin out... Has it been repaired? You could drill the centre of both pieces & put some copper rod or similar in there & then glue with something that stands up to gas (not JB weld in my experience) or cross drill & pin it in place (I did the latter on a 550 & it worked out ok.

As JB Weld worked great for me over the years sitting in gas. It isn't a permanent solution as others have said though. Welcome to the club. Most everyone here is really, really cool.

 

[Nessism]

If you post an ad in the Parts Wanted forum, someone will come to the rescue with a new carb body.

 

[russjgarner]

I have to disagree with salty monk

"That post is a common problem cause by people trying to get the float pin out... Has it been repaired? You could drill the centre of both pieces & put some copper rod or similar in there & then glue with something that stands up to gas (not JB weld in my experience) or cross drill & pin it in place (I did the latter on a 550 & it worked out ok.

As JB Weld worked great for me over the years sitting in gas. It isn't a permanent solution as others have said though. Welcome to the club. Most everyone here is really, really cool.

I just cleaned it up and JB welded it. I talked to my dad and he said he's done it before for a petcock repair, and it worked fine... so we'll see, I'll keep you guys posted. Hmmm whatelse... I got the frame # "GS850-119089" but can't find the vin. It should be right on the steering stem right? I didn't even think about it when I bought the bike, and it just came with a bill of sale. Kind of odd...

 

[Don-lo]

That is the VIN number. They changed the format a year or 2 later.

 

[Guest]

I probably have a #1 32mm carb body.

 

[doctorgonzo]

There's been a back and foirth and different opinios on JB Weld. I used it to repair a float pin post and after about a month it had dissolved. Others have had no problem. I ultimately resolved it with a new carb body.

 

[russjgarner]

I probably have a #1 32mm carb body.

Wow, your in Bako to?? I'm in P'ville.... let's talk, I'll PM you.

 

[russjgarner]

That is the VIN number. They changed the format a year or 2 later.

Copy. Thanks

 

[russjgarner]

So I did a little more work.

The wiring was/is a freakin nightmare... I have a feeling the bike was maybe in a bad wreck and a new front end was donated because the wiring up front was patched together with rolls of black tape and all kinds of cut wires that led to nowhere.... I had to trace each wire 1 by 1. Lame. I still have more work to do but it's mostly clean up.

I was tired of the back end so I chopped it off. Not finished with that either, I just wanted to get see what it looked like. I have some nice ideas for it, so I'll keep you guys posted.

I picked up an old harley tank and it looks real good on there, so I'm going to stick with it. Suprisingly I like the stock tank, but all my buds talked me out of it... Harley dudes.... weak....

I put the GSXR front end on, and have to tweak with it, but for the most part I think its going to work. I have to find some different bearings and flip the brakes around.

And last but not least I recieved the O-rings from Rob? @ cycleorings.com so I want to put it back together tomorrow morining and see if it runs any better....

Whew, a lot of work, but I'm stoked on it! The reason I'm writing all this is so I can get some input from you guys. Comments and suggestions are much appreciated!

Russell