T
-
Required reading for all forum users!!!
Welcome!
Register to access the full functionality of the GSResources forum. Until you register and activate your account you will not have full forum access, nor will you be able to post or reply to messages.A note to new registrants...
All new forum registrations must be activated via email before you have full access to the forum.A Special Note about Email accounts!
DO NOT SIGN UP USING hotmail, outlook, gmx, sbcglobal, att, bellsouth or email.com. They delete our forum signup emails.A note to old forum members...
I receive numerous requests from people who can no longer log in because their accounts were deleted. As mentioned in the forum FAQ, user accounts are deleted if you haven't logged in for the past 6 months. If you can't log in, then create a new forum account. If you don't get an error message, then check your email account for an activation message. If you get a message stating that the email address is already in use, then your account still exists so follow the instructions in the forum FAQ for resetting your password.Have you forgotten your password or have a new email address? Then read the forum FAQ for details on how to reset it.
Any email requests for "can't log in anymore" problems or "lost my password" problems will be deleted. Read the forum FAQ and follow the instructions there - that's what we have one for...
-
Returning Visitors
If you are a returning visitor who never received your confirmation email, then odds are your email provider is blockinig emails from our server. The only thing that can be done to get around this is you will have to try creating another forum account using an email address from another domain.
If you are a returning visitor to the forum and can't log in using your old forum name and password but used to be able to then chances are your account is deleted. Purges of the databases are done regularly. You will have to create a new forum account and you should be all set.
G
Guest
Guest
Looks very 80s to me, made me think of the Kawasaki Z200.
T
trtsmb
Guest
Our Suzuki shop tends to favor the big Boulevard Cruisers. The MSF course here uses the Rebel 250s.
I'm tempted to stop in at the shop and see if they have one. I'm small & light enough that it probably would be pretty nimble. I'm also curious how a modern UJM compares against my 450.
I'm tempted to stop in at the shop and see if they have one. I'm small & light enough that it probably would be pretty nimble. I'm also curious how a modern UJM compares against my 450.
What about a GS 500?
J
JEEPRUSTY
Guest
A UJM has an I4 engine folks.
T
trtsmb
Guest
I've never seen a 500 in the wild, only in pictures.
J
JEEPRUSTY
Guest
GS 500s are a long running bike mid 80s or so to present?
Friend got one after getting bitten my the moto bug about aged 45
most old guys buy harleys as a mid life crisis soother
he got a paralell twin new off the showroom floor a leftover cos hes frugal
kept it for three years then sold it for a song to get a 650 Ninja
That little thumper sure is pretty I cant imagine what horrid buzziness is emitted from that engine.
Friend got one after getting bitten my the moto bug about aged 45
most old guys buy harleys as a mid life crisis soother
he got a paralell twin new off the showroom floor a leftover cos hes frugal
kept it for three years then sold it for a song to get a 650 Ninja
That little thumper sure is pretty I cant imagine what horrid buzziness is emitted from that engine.
J
JEEPRUSTY
Guest
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-moto-chopper...0x/1045595817?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
cheap little things um sort of
cheap little things um sort of
E
Ecklund
Guest
This was my understanding too.
But is it possible the term is evolving to mean Japanese standard?
As an analogy the term Muscle car was a specific term for an intermediate body with a big block motor. There were also pony cars and fast big cars. Now just about any V8 coupe is called a muscle car.
Not sure the term UJM is changing, but this is the second thread I've seen the term used on non-inline four bikes.
I've never heard that one before.
I have a good friend that rides a TU250. It is nicely put together, looks great, and the engine is well balanced and NOT buzzy. Vibration levels are less than a GS750, which is a pretty smooth bike. My only complaint about it is power, but I'm used to my B12 and it isn't fair to compare it to that in acceleration. LOL Top end is about 75 mph, but for continuious cruise, I wouldn't want to keep it over about 60 as I don't like to keep an engine wound that tight for extended periods. It's a great little nimble around town and back roads bike or any place speeds will mostly be no more than 60-65 mph.
I think if Suzuki would make that bike, but with the GS500 engine in it, they would really have a seller.
Last edited:
T
trtsmb
Guest
Sounds like my style of riding.
A
AKC75
Guest
Agreed!
It looks like a fun little bike to putt around town on. I browsed at some online.
Cleveland Cycle Works makes some very sweet stylish 250s as well at a very affordable price. Even cheaper than the Suzuki.
Attachments
Agreed!
It looks like a fun little bike to putt around town on. I browsed at some online.
Cleveland Cycle Works makes some very sweet stylish 250s as well at a very affordable price. Even cheaper than the Suzuki.
If you Google the CCW Ace for problems.......it's pretty much a piece of junk.
[h=1]Universal Japanese motorcycle[/h] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Honda CB750, a classic UJM
The term "Universal Japanese Motorcycle", or UJM, was coined in the mid-1970s by Cycle Magazine to describe a proliferation of similar Japanese standard motorcycles that became commonplace following Honda's 1969 introduction of its successful CB750 — which became a rough template for subsequent designs from all three of the other major Japanese motorcycle manufacturers.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] In 2011, the New York Times said lightning struck for Honda "with the 1969 CB 750, whose use of an inline 4-cylinder engine came to define the Universal Japanese Motorcycle."[SUP][4][/SUP]
The UJM template featured a four-cylinder engine, standard riding position, carburetor for each cylinder, unit construction engine, disc front brake, conventional tubular cradle frame and telescopic front forks and twin-shock rear suspension. As the major Japanese motorcycle manufacturers, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha, began replicating each other's designs, the UJM's created a homogeneity of form, function and quality. UJMs included such prominent models as the Honda CB500, the Kawasaki Z1, and the Suzuki GS750. Such machines had massive sales, and UJMs continued to be produced for more than a decade.
In 1976, Cycle described the new phenomenon, saying:
"In the hard world of commerce, achievers get imitated and the imitators get imitated. There is developing, after all, a kind of Universal Japanese Motorcycle.... conceived in sameness, executed with precision, and produced by the thousands." [SUP][5][/SUP] In the 2010 book, Sport Bikes, Hans Hetrick wrote that "throughout the 1970s, the Japanese companies experimented with different types of engines and frame designs. Their ideas soon came together in a rock-solid package. This design became known as the Universal Japanese Motorcycle, or UJM."[SUP][6][/SUP]
Subsequently, in the 1980s and 1990s, the Japanese manufacturers diversified their ranges, producing faired sportsbikes, race-replicas, dual-sport bikes and musclebikes.[SUP][7][/SUP]
[h=2]Contemporary UJMs[/h] A market revival has led Japanese manufacturers to introduce modern interpretations of the UJM, including Honda's 2010 CB1100.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP]
When Suzuki introduced its TU250X in 2009 to the US market, author Pete Brissette of Motorcycle.com wrote that Suzuki had "returned to the simple formula of the UJM, and with it brought back the pleasures of riding a friendly, straightforward motorcycle."[SUP][10][/SUP]
Yamaha subsequently reintroduced their SR400 to the North American and Australian market.
The Honda CB750, a classic UJMThe basic platform was an upright, open seating position motorcycle powered by a carbureted, air-cooled engine wrapped in a steel-tube cradle-type frame, and at least one disc brake to bring it all to a stop. The simple design made motorcycling accessible to riders of all types and skill sets. UJMs were available in various displacements, and their ubiquity helped grow motorcycling in America during the 1970s and ‘80s.
Source: Motorcycle.com [SUP][1][/SUP]
The term "Universal Japanese Motorcycle", or UJM, was coined in the mid-1970s by Cycle Magazine to describe a proliferation of similar Japanese standard motorcycles that became commonplace following Honda's 1969 introduction of its successful CB750 — which became a rough template for subsequent designs from all three of the other major Japanese motorcycle manufacturers.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] In 2011, the New York Times said lightning struck for Honda "with the 1969 CB 750, whose use of an inline 4-cylinder engine came to define the Universal Japanese Motorcycle."[SUP][4][/SUP]
The UJM template featured a four-cylinder engine, standard riding position, carburetor for each cylinder, unit construction engine, disc front brake, conventional tubular cradle frame and telescopic front forks and twin-shock rear suspension. As the major Japanese motorcycle manufacturers, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha, began replicating each other's designs, the UJM's created a homogeneity of form, function and quality. UJMs included such prominent models as the Honda CB500, the Kawasaki Z1, and the Suzuki GS750. Such machines had massive sales, and UJMs continued to be produced for more than a decade.
In 1976, Cycle described the new phenomenon, saying:
"In the hard world of commerce, achievers get imitated and the imitators get imitated. There is developing, after all, a kind of Universal Japanese Motorcycle.... conceived in sameness, executed with precision, and produced by the thousands." [SUP][5][/SUP] In the 2010 book, Sport Bikes, Hans Hetrick wrote that "throughout the 1970s, the Japanese companies experimented with different types of engines and frame designs. Their ideas soon came together in a rock-solid package. This design became known as the Universal Japanese Motorcycle, or UJM."[SUP][6][/SUP]
Subsequently, in the 1980s and 1990s, the Japanese manufacturers diversified their ranges, producing faired sportsbikes, race-replicas, dual-sport bikes and musclebikes.[SUP][7][/SUP]
[h=2]Contemporary UJMs[/h] A market revival has led Japanese manufacturers to introduce modern interpretations of the UJM, including Honda's 2010 CB1100.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP]
When Suzuki introduced its TU250X in 2009 to the US market, author Pete Brissette of Motorcycle.com wrote that Suzuki had "returned to the simple formula of the UJM, and with it brought back the pleasures of riding a friendly, straightforward motorcycle."[SUP][10][/SUP]
Yamaha subsequently reintroduced their SR400 to the North American and Australian market.