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please listen to my noise!

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well heres what I did, started bike and started to turn tensioner nob no difference, so I thought spring is new probley going to hold well, so slowly started to unbolt the tensioner ( I know bad idea but don't care at this point and was desperate for some kinda of sign) had the tensioner unbolted 1/4 from cylinder no change what so ever, so iam leaning towards a bearing somewhere in the crank ( its still hard to convince myself its a crank bearing)

Whoa back up!
Sounds like your tensioner isn't doing anything. If it was you would hear something change when you loosened it, whether the engine was totally ruined or if it was perfect. It is a very obvious change in sound. Always always you will hear something change if it's working.

If there's no change in sound, the chain is loose as can be already, ratling around in there, possibly skipping teeth on the cam sprockets and wreaking more havoc inside.

Are you sure the setscrew has been released?

Did you take the tensioner out and see if it's stuck or broken or something? You can push a wooden rod or something in with the engine shut off and feel the chain tension change. Maybe the chain tensioner shoe inside the engine is broken?

I don't know what is wrong with it but not hearing a change absolutely means it's not working. Check this before taking anything else apart.
 
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Whoa back up!
Sounds like your tensioner isn't doing anything. If it was you would hear something change when you loosened it, whether the engine was totally ruined or if it was perfect. It is a very obvious change in sound. Always always you will hear something change if it's working.

If there's no change in sound, the chain is loose as can be already, ratling around in there, possibly skipping teeth on the cam sprockets and wreaking more havoc inside.

Are you sure the setscrew has been released?

Did you take the tensioner out and see if it's stuck or broken or something? You can push a wooden rod or something in with the engine shut off and feel the chain tension change. Maybe the chain tensioner shoe inside the engine is broken?

I don't know what is wrong with it but not hearing a change absolutely means it's not working. Check this before taking anything else apart.

Eah god, how far down the road do we have to go before he pulls the freaking valve cover and checks for chain slop?
 
I bought my Kawasaki Concours for a song, the guy knew it had a bad engine. Sounded like a paint can full of rocks on a paint shaker. Used it to talk him down to near nothing, he went to get the title, I loaded the bike in the truck then took the tensioner out, pushed a pencil in the hole and pushed on the tensioner shoe. Started the engine, it idled silently.

After i got the title I started it up for him. I have a mean streak too.

Chek your tensioner, your cam timing, chain slop, it's all easy stuff.
 
Why not take the tensioner out and fix it?

Why not at least answer the questions about the tensioner?
 
Nothing wrong with tensioner, let me clarify when I said it made no difference it Made no difference with my problem yes I heard the chain get loose and start to slap a.bit and felt it threw the nob.
 
If you follow the steps.to check the tensioner the nob un winds and takes up the chain slack
 
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I bought my Kawasaki Concours for a song, the guy knew it had a bad engine. Sounded like a paint can full of rocks on a paint shaker. Used it to talk him down to near nothing, he went to get the title, I loaded the bike in the truck then took the tensioner out, pushed a pencil in the hole and pushed on the tensioner shoe. Started the engine, it idled silently.

After i got the title I started it up for him. I have a mean streak too.

Chek your tensioner, your cam timing, chain slop, it's all easy stuff.

I bought a 83 xr200r with mostly same issue guy said engine was bad turned out to be the cam chain tensioner was frozen found its very commen with the bike it runs great know, i know what loose cam chain sounds like i seriously doubt that is my problem, did you watch the video i posted at the beggining of this thread its a long thread allot has been discussed and done.
 
i want my bike fixed, i have done everything that has been suggested to check

Again,

Are you sure the setscrew has been released?

Did you take the tensioner out and see if it's stuck or broken or something? You can push a wooden rod or something in with the engine shut off and feel the chain tension change. Maybe the chain tensioner shoe inside the engine is broken?
 
Again,

Are you sure the setscrew has been released?

Did you take the tensioner out and see if it's stuck or broken or something? You can push a wooden rod or something in with the engine shut off and feel the chain tension change. Maybe the chain tensioner shoe inside the engine is broken?

Yes screw is released, I have tensioner out know and moves freely no binding, check back with pushing something on shoe
 
OK, but there's just no way it can be loosened without any change in sound if it was working correctly.

You push on the shoe, the chain tension should change.
 
well you have to remove the pipe to pull the engine...
if you get bored drop the pan and sump...look around.
i'm out of ideas...tried to call JP again..he may have my # blocked:eek:
 
I think its narrowed down to cam chain/guides or somthing with bearings on crank. havent tried the push on shoe had to run into work
 
update: pushed on cam chain guide seemed normal, but still couldn't tell if maybe worn threw, I pulled the head and cylinder block and found a barely worn cam chain guides:(, I pulled the oil pan and found some metal flakes not howl lot but some bigger then I thought pieces I took a picture kind of hard to see but what appears to be white dots are metal flakes there about tip of ball point pen size maybe little bigger. allot of smaller pieces. idk if that's a sign of something but that's where iam at.
 
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