Polaris R/R

[Guest]

Most r/r do the same function switch an ac current to dc and regulate the current so most can be installed on any bike. I have an old Kawi 1000 r/r on my Gs1150 and it works great

 

[Guest]

Most r/r do the same function switch an ac current to dc and regulate the current so most can be installed on any bike. I have an old Kawi 1000 r/r on my Gs1150 and it works great

It's just the series RR do the job soooo much better then shunts.

 

[posplayr]

Probable cause of the failures could be that those R/R's are mounted about 2 inches away from the exhaust right behind the engine (those bikes have an undertail exhaust that come up behind the motor and under the seat). On later models the R/R is mounted inside the fairing near the front.

Just goes to show that you can't always assume that the factory knew what they were doing. In this example it is pretty laughable that nobody was reviewing the design enough to figure out that mounting an R/R near the exhaust was a bad idea.

 

[Guest]

Just goes to show that you can't always assume that the factory knew what they were doing. In this example it is pretty laughable that nobody was reviewing the design enough to figure out that mounting an R/R near the exhaust was a bad idea.

I agree completely some factory engineers should be slapped right up side head.
Every time I here someone say. Oh but the factory did it like that for a reason so it must be right. I just shake my head and think to myself "Idiot"

 

[rlloydl]

Hi all,
Just to confirm here on wiring the new SH 775.
Three wires come from my stator: Y, W/G, and W/B. W/G goes up the harness while Y and W/B are going to the R/R. Out of the harness a W/R also goes to the R/R, so I presume that Y, W/G and W/R are the three stator wires you speak of?

Just wanted to confirm that I am not to grab the W/G instead (if I did, I would have not idea on what to do with the W/R then!)

Thanks,

 

[Griffin]

For those wanting to switch to the Polaris R/R setup, it was mentioned in one (or two) of the many threads on the subject that the CanAm/SeaDoo R/R part number 710001103 is identical to the Polaris unit. There is a vendor on Ebay selling these for $44 each:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Regulator-R...her_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item35d9619b8c&vxp=mtr

I've no idea if these are OEM SeaDoo parts or aftermarket (I'm guessing the latter). I have ordered one and will report on it in more detail once it arrives.

The R/R (Rick's, oem type) just went kaput on my 1000G. This will be the third (and hopefully last) R/R replacement on this bike in the past 19,000 miles.

 

[Grimly]

A genuine OEM Seadoo / Shindengen one is much more pricey than that - www.ebay.com/itm/190941015987

Here, we see the same trickery being used for Seadoo as is used in motorcycle and ATVs to promote no-name, possibly MOSFET, certainly sub-standard parts as fake OEM, with cunning wording designed to sucker people in... http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_n...01103 FAST FREE SHIPPING&_itemId=221382275541

In a large percentage of cases, I've noticed that sellers of genuine SH-775s make a point of showing the rear of the unit with the model number on it. A lot of people are now clued in to these and so are many sellers. This is why the more rogueish elements are being very clever with their wording - promising much without saying anything.

 

[Griffin]

Just because something is aftermarket doesn't mean it's junk. If it is a series R/R, it will probably be fine. If it's a shunt R/R disguised to look like a series R/R. then I will have some feedback for the seller.

Like I said, I'm giving it a try to see what it is all about and report it to the forum. If it works as well as the OEM, why pay OEM prices for one? For years, we've been buying aftermarket stators and shunt R/Rs here that are much less money than oem and better quality. If this turns out to be a similar case, then great. If it's not, then we'll know.

Someone trying to sell one of these for $150, oem or not, is trying to rip people off. You can get them from dealers for less than that.

 

[Grimly]

I didn't say it was junk - but since it's masquerading as being a direct replacement for the OEM, meaning it's a fair assumption to make that it's a series unit, and it turns out to be MOSFET or SCR, then it's sub-standard. Not just in my opinion, but fact.
Only reason people are looking for these is to put an end to the fried stator syndrome - kinda sticks in my craw and boils my urine that a seller is deliberately misleading buyers, based on that need.
This seller, and others, most definitely knows what he's peddling - and doesn't give a toss about anyone's stator as long as he gets the money.
They're popping up all around - sheesh, cut out the middleman and get them direct from China via Alibaba / Aliexpress.

 

[Griffin]

I didn't say it was junk - but since it's masquerading as being a direct replacement for the OEM, meaning it's a fair assumption to make that it's a series unit, and it turns out to be MOSFET or SCR, then it's sub-standard. Not just in my opinion, but fact.
Only reason people are looking for these is to put an end to the fried stator syndrome - kinda sticks in my craw and boils my urine that a seller is deliberately misleading buyers, based on that need.
This seller, and others, most definitely knows what he's peddling - and doesn't give a toss about anyone's stator as long as he gets the money.
They're popping up all around - sheesh, cut out the middleman and get them direct from China via Alibaba / Aliexpress.

In other words, you have no first hand knowledge of this unit.

 

[tom203]

He's speculating that there is a good chance that many of these things have misleading/obfuscating claims- and probably rightly so. Basically the shunt R/R's have been made obsolete,yet dealers have boxes of them. Plus, I bet a Chinese knockoff (a genuine series ) will be slow to arrive. If you get one of these, check it out - a simple AC current clamp meter will determine if it is actually a series unit and not just a glorified MOSFET shunt.

 

[2BRacing]

Just goes to show that you can't always assume that the factory knew what they were doing. In this example it is pretty laughable that nobody was reviewing the design enough to figure out that mounting an R/R near the exhaust was a bad idea.

I agree completely some factory engineers should be slapped right up side head.
Every time I here someone say. Oh but the factory did it like that for a reason so it must be right. I just shake my head and think to myself "Idiot"

My apologies to the OP for showing these pictures in his thread, but just to illustrate what "modern" designers can get up to! This is where the R/R is mounted on a 2007 Triumph Daytona 675.

 

[rlloydl]

Ignore my last question. My answer is in another post!
Thanks,
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?225027-SH775-and-Headlight-bypass

 

[posplayr]

I can see why Triumph selected that position, as the R/R formfactor is big. But with the proximity of the exhaust,a simple heat shield would have conducted exhaust into the frame and away from the R/R allowing it to breath a little heat.

Given the exact form factor between this mosfet unit and the SH-775, how long should/will it take for Triumph to switch over?

 

[Grimly]

In other words, you have no first hand knowledge of this unit.

And no intention of, either. Given the genuine unit is so cheap, why waste good money on these shoddy imitators?
However, one thing I do have, is years of experience of shady dealers on and off the 'net - and my shady dealer alarm bells are clanging loud with these things.