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Removing and mounting tires

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I've got brand new tires on the 750L and the T needs a new rear. How hard is it to remove tires and mount them on new wheels? I've never done it on anything harder than a bicycle.

Thanks,
Mike
 
You could probably do it, but you are going to want to have them balanced. I would just take it to a shop.

Allen
 
True,...but it shouldn't be too hard to take 'em off the old wheels so I can bring 'em to the shop, right?
 
Mike..It aint hard..just a ball buster..I work over a plastic 5 gal bucket with 3 tire irons. Take your time..The shop I use for dirt bike wheels(bead locks suck) only charges 13 bucks to do the work. They pinch a tube now and then. If you have tubeless tires, just cut the old tire off with arazor knife. Plenty of lube to squeeze the new tire on.
 
I would rather pay someone to do it and if they damage something they pay.

It can be done though with tire irons.

Allen
 
Mike,

If you have a local shop that will do it for a reasonable price I'd say let them do it. Around here it runs about $30 per wheel if you bring the wheels in and $40 per wheel if you ride the bike in. To me that's a bit steep. It isn't too hard to do yourself but some special tools are very helpful.You'll need some way to break the bead on the old tires. This is sometimes the toughest part. A compressor is pretty much a necessity to get the bead to seal on the new tires. You can balance yourself with a couple jackstands and stick-on weights.

Thanks,
Joe
 
I did get my rear tire changed, I took a lot of work and cursing. I never got the bead set, but I think the compressors at the gas stations just didn't put air out fast enough. I took it to the cycle shop and they finished it for free. I'm taking my front and my dad's rear to be done for me tomorrow. They'll do it or $10 each so it's not worth it do fuss with. It's definatly an experiance though.
 
Llamaguy said:
I did get my rear tire changed, I took a lot of work and cursing. I never got the bead set, but I think the compressors at the gas stations just didn't put air out fast enough. I took it to the cycle shop and they finished it for free. I'm taking my front and my dad's rear to be done for me tomorrow. They'll do it or $10 each so it's not worth it do fuss with. It's definatly an experiance though.
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Like I said, if I could get it done around here for that price it would be a no-brainer. Also, a good compressor is almost a must have. Between myself and friends we've saved enough by doing it ourselves to buy quite a few sets of tires. After you've done it a few times you develop a routine and it isn't too bad. I did a set recently in about 40 minutes with someone else removing the wheels from the bike.

Joe
 
The worst part is breaking the bead, after that it's not a big deal. I built a breaker out of 2X4's for this. If you just use tire irons pry the tire off the bead a bit and get some soapy water between the tire and the rim. Makes the whole job easier.
 
Just a slight aside from the question.


I consider balancing an absolute necessity, on both wheels. It is critical on the front wheel as an imbalance at speed can induce other problems.


That brings up the "aside":

For balance, the last two Metzelers I bought went on as per manufacturer recommendations (there is a mark on the tire to match the valve opening on the rim) required zilch. Once on, they were found to be within a few hundredths of an ounce, and the bike shop did not have weights small enough to make it perfect.
 
Llamaguy said:
I did get my rear tire changed, I took a lot of work and cursing. I never got the bead set, but I think the compressors at the gas stations just didn't put air out fast enough. I took it to the cycle shop and they finished it for free. I'm taking my front and my dad's rear to be done for me tomorrow. They'll do it or $10 each so it's not worth it do fuss with. It's definatly an experiance though.
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Llama, where did you find a shop in or near Indy that will mount tires that cheap?

Cycle Outfitters says they mount tires for free, but they charge a $35-$50 premium per tire. Cycle Recycle II wanted $15 each a couple of years ago, on top of a $20 - $25 premium per tire (e.g. $75 for a $50 Cheng Shin, plus $15 mounting.)

I've found the same thing everywhere I look -- they'll only mount tires if you buy them through their shop, and they either charge quite a lot for mounting or jack up the tire prices so you can't just buy a tire and mount it at home.

I'd happily pay $10 a tire for mounting (I'll bring in the wheels -- no mechanic monkey is touching my GS!), but with my last set, I paid for most of my new air compressor by mounting tires myself.

A set of Dunlop 491s was $170 delivered from http://tiresunlimited.com (they were fresh, too). Cycle Outfitters wanted $300 for a set that had been sitting in their shop a couple of years. (Costs for Metzelers were about)

I do have to admit that CO has the largest stock of tires around, so if I was in a hurry, that's where I'd need to go.
 
bwringer said:
Llama, where did you find a shop in or near Indy that will mount tires that cheap?

Cycle Outfitters says they mount tires for free, but they charge a $35-$50 premium per tire. Cycle Recycle II wanted $15 each a couple of years ago, on top of a $20 - $25 premium per tire (e.g. $75 for a $50 Cheng Shin, plus $15 mounting.)

I've found the same thing everywhere I look -- they'll only mount tires if you buy them through their shop, and they either charge quite a lot for mounting or jack up the tire prices so you can't just buy a tire and mount it at home.

I'd happily pay $10 a tire for mounting (I'll bring in the wheels -- no mechanic monkey is touching my GS!), but with my last set, I paid for most of my new air compressor by mounting tires myself.

A set of Dunlop 491s was $170 delivered from http://tiresunlimited.com (they were fresh, too). Cycle Outfitters wanted $300 for a set that had been sitting in their shop a couple of years. (Costs for Metzelers were about)

I do have to admit that CO has the largest stock of tires around, so if I was in a hurry, that's where I'd need to go.
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Tire Expess carries a good stock with 2 or 3 day delivery. Competitive prices too.
 
bwringer said:
Llama, where did you find a shop in or near Indy that will mount tires that cheap?

Cycle Outfitters says they mount tires for free, but they charge a $35-$50 premium per tire. Cycle Recycle II wanted $15 each a couple of years ago, on top of a $20 - $25 premium per tire (e.g. $75 for a $50 Cheng Shin, plus $15 mounting.)

I've found the same thing everywhere I look -- they'll only mount tires if you buy them through their shop, and they either charge quite a lot for mounting or jack up the tire prices so you can't just buy a tire and mount it at home.

I'd happily pay $10 a tire for mounting (I'll bring in the wheels -- no mechanic monkey is touching my GS!), but with my last set, I paid for most of my new air compressor by mounting tires myself.

A set of Dunlop 491s was $170 delivered from http://tiresunlimited.com (they were fresh, too). Cycle Outfitters wanted $300 for a set that had been sitting in their shop a couple of years. (Costs for Metzelers were about)

I do have to admit that CO has the largest stock of tires around, so if I was in a hurry, that's where I'd need to go.
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My dad got a tire at Cycle recycle, I thought he said it was $10, but it might have been more for balance.

Today I stopped by Cycle Outfitters and had them put mine and my dad's tire on since recycle is closed mondays. Was $35 each. Not bad considering how much of a pain it was for the 1 I did. Plus they are super nice I don't mind giving them some of my money.
 
Well, i did mine at work with an automotive tire changer (aluminum wheel machine) it had adaptors to grab the rotor , snotted up the bead, spun them off and balanced them at home with 2 jack stands.
 
I read the links about mounting a balancing. I think I am going to give it try. I already have the car rim and lots of bolts and 2 x4s. I bought a set of tire levers. Tool cost less than $20.

I'll practice on some junk wheels first.
 
It took me all day to change and balance a rear tire. It was a nightmare. But when I was done I was glad I did it. This is why I wanted an old bike - so I could learn to do things myself. I learned a lot, and next time will be a lot easier.

As far as breaking the bead, I found a couple of large 'U' clamps and short 1x2s work wonders.
 
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katoranger said:
I read the links about mounting a balancing. I think I am going to give it try. I already have the car rim and lots of bolts and 2 x4s. I bought a set of tire levers. Tool cost less than $20.

I'll practice on some junk wheels first.
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You don't even need a rim. I just built the base out of 2X4s as well. When I get a chance I'll post a pic.
 
Thanks, I would like to see it. I have broken beads before. I can weld up a bead breaker to make things easier.

I just think that $35 a tire is too much money to spend. Considering I have four to do it should be cost effective. I am assuming the parts stores carry wheel weights.

Allen
 
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