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semi-floating brake rotors

  • Thread starter Thread starter lurch12_2000
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I used them on my FZR400 race bike and it would stand on its nose. I'd go with new.
 
Agemax said:
i have kagazumi front and rear wavy discs. top quality, perfect brakes all for ?120. not a true "floater" on the front but it works well and looks good
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Yup. Those be the ones. The ZRX guys say they're every bit as good as the Galfers they're copied from. More than a couple use them on their track bike du jour. A set will be going on Rex at some point this winter or spring. I've got a button gone weak on one of the stockers, and the HH pads I use have torn those soft stock ones up already. But damn it will stop your face off.
 
WTF with the spamming? Really? I see you have more posts in your count than most of the members. I should think you would be more polite an not be spamming other member's threads.
 
keman said:
WTF with the spamming? Really? I see you have more posts in your count than most of the members. I should think you would be more polite an not be spamming other member's threads.
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Sorry if you think I spamming, but spam is the use of electronic messaging sytems to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately. My messages where just as solicited as some posts in this thread that attack other?s intelligence or opinions. My "redirect" posts where not bulk as I purposed to limit it and pick 6 or 7 OT threads that may need a perspective check and some motorcycle related stuff. And indiscriminate usually means haphazard or random, and trust me my redirects where fully intended for specific threads.
If you?d like to visit NH and meet me and take a ride together, then you?ll find I?m a pretty nice guy and not impolite.
Trust me, I have far fewer posts than a lot of long timers and especially limit my posts in OT. 90% of my posts(IMO) are valid posts in the Tech, Meetingplace or Riding game, or other non-OT sections but if others want to spend most of their forum time in OT then so be it. Just don't get upset if non-regulars jump into the fray occassionally. I have met my share of GS forum members in person for rides and to establish a relationship well beyond the shallow OT one-upmanship. Sorry for the long winded post, but keep your perspective and don?t get too upset and keep riding. Otherwise, you can always report me to the admin! ;)
Now do you have any knowledge of semi-floating rotors since you?re in my thread presently?:p
 
lurch12_2000 said:
Sorry if you think I spamming, but spam is the use of electronic messaging sytems to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately. My messages where just as solicited as some posts in this thread that attack other?s intelligence or opinions. My "redirect" posts where not bulk as I purposed to limit it and pick 6 or 7 OT threads that may need a perspective check and some motorcycle related stuff. And indiscriminate usually means haphazard or random, and trust me my redirects where fully intended for specific threads.
If you?d like to visit NH and meet me and take a ride together, then you?ll find I?m a pretty nice guy and not impolite.
Trust me, I have far fewer posts than a lot of long timers and especially limit my posts in OT. 90% of my posts(IMO) are valid posts in the Tech, Meetingplace or Riding game, or other non-OT sections but if others want to spend most of their forum time in OT then so be it. Just don't get upset if non-regulars jump into the fray occassionally. I have met my share of GS forum members in person for rides and to establish a relationship well beyond the shallow OT one-upmanship. Sorry for the long winded post, but keep your perspective and don?t get too upset and keep riding. Otherwise, you can always report me to the admin! ;)
Now do you have any knowledge of semi-floating rotors since you?re in my thread presently?:p
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Lurch, i dont think he was referring to you, i think he was pointing his pathetic post at the cafe kid, your posts are fine and as far as i am concerned so are the cafe kids, they are on topic and contain useful information to someone like yourself who is planning on a disc upgrade
 
I think keman is a little confused. Steve and TCK are fine. I think TCK was just trying to explain his experiences with the buttons on the floating discs and keman thought he might be hi jacking they thread and jumped the gun??? IDK.
 
The comment was not intended for Cafe Kid. I was asking about posts that have been made in several unrelated threads re-directing to this thread. While spamming may be the wrong name for it, I refer to posts in off topic threads that have nothing to do with semi-floating brake rotors like the post in the poser thread...

lurch12_2000 said:
Input from you posers on this?


[URL="http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=185213"]http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=185213[/URL]
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I have noticed these posts in several other threads and was wondering WTF? Kinda like a remote bump??

Sorry, no, I do not have any input on floaters. I posted in this thread because the links posted in other threads lead here. I did not mean to be rude, I am sure you're a great guy. If you ever get out to the north west, look me up, I cook up some mighty tasty ribs.

Sorry if you were offended.
 
keman said:
WTF with the spamming? Really? I see you have more posts in your count than most of the members. I should think you would be more polite an not be spamming other member's threads.
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sounds a lot like you were aiming at TCK to me, he has a lot more posts than Lurch,and i cant see either of them has done any wrong
 
keman said:
The comment was not intended for Cafe Kid. I was asking about posts that have been made in several unrelated threads re-directing to this thread. While spamming may be the wrong name for it, I refer to posts in off topic threads that have nothing to do with semi-floating brake rotors like the post in the poser thread...



I have noticed these posts in several other threads and was wondering WTF? Kinda like a remote bump??

Sorry, no, I do not have any input on floaters. I posted in this thread because the links posted in other threads lead here. I did not mean to be rude, I am sure you're a great guy. If you ever get out to the north west, look me up, I cook up some mighty tasty ribs.

Sorry if you were offended.
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I made no secret of the redirects here. Stick around the forum long enough and you'll see how OT needs some diversion periodically. All's well when we keep things in perspective and revisit what brought us to the forum in the first place.
No real offense taken....and ribs sound good if I'm out there!;)
 
I thought OT was supposed to be out of direction... I actually like reading some of the threads when they go wonkie! I get a sense that you may like to mess with their heads a bit in there. I tend to Stir the pot once in a while too. It's all in good fun.
 
Agemax said:
anyway, back on topic, have you decided what you want to go for now mr Lurch?
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Because I would have to drill out the 9 buttons on the stock bandit rotors and pay about $80(x2) for a new package of 12 replacable buttons (9 per rotor) I opted to pick up a decent set(both left and right fronts) of complete rotors off e-bay for $70 to hold me over for now. I should get them in the next few days and confirm that they are in fact in great shape and with no play around the buttons ....seller answered my pointed questions satisfactorly...we'll see??:-k
I may then experiment with drilling out the 9 buttons on the sloppy old rotor. Some web based articles say to use a grinding wheel instead. Only full floating buttons are available as aftermarket mods that I can find.
 
well good luck mate, hope they turn out a good buy for you. obviously we want pics of them when fitted
 
Here is a pic of the old rotor with the broken wave washers allowing the disc to rattle and move forward/back and side to side instead of being snug. The red arrows show where all of the wave washers had broken apart, with a few completely missing. Not sure why the right rotor was like this and the left rotor is perfectly fine with no busted washers. Also, I would have to drill or use a grinder to pop the old buttons off. Replacement buttons and wave washers have a retaining clip to secure them in place. My replacement rotors are expected to be delivered today.

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lurch12_2000 said:
Because I would have to drill out the 9 buttons on the stock bandit rotors and pay about $80(x2) for a new package of 12 replacable buttons (9 per rotor) I opted to pick up a decent set(both left and right fronts) of complete rotors off e-bay for $70 to hold me over for now. I should get them in the next few days and confirm that they are in fact in great shape and with no play around the buttons ....seller answered my pointed questions satisfactorly...we'll see??:-k
I may then experiment with drilling out the 9 buttons on the sloppy old rotor. Some web based articles say to use a grinding wheel instead. Only full floating buttons are available as aftermarket mods that I can find.
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if you are going to experiment, then yes, a grinder is the only way to remove the old buttons, if they are sloppy fit then drilling them will just spin them and not actually drill through them.
with new discs arriving anyway you have nothing to lose :)
 
You can whack those buttons with a hammer against an anvil and tighten them up enough to drill them out. They are soft compared to the disc material so you won't booger anything. Only do one at a time to make reassembly a doddle.

I can't believe the price of those new buttons - they used to be pennies and that made the job a no-brainer. Throwaway society now though.
 
Jedz123 said:
Lurch my rotors are staring to develop slight movement... However I plan on replacing with EBC rotors sometime this winter or early next season.
Link for you.http://www.indysuperbike.com/customer/product.php?productid=116833

Sorry I didn't stumble on this thread earlier...
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If you can wiggle with 1 finger and thumb and there's movement forward/aft then the wave washers are tired or maybe broken like mine. There should be slight movement if you grab with some effort and some wiggle side to side is ok. How many miles on your Bandit? Original factory rotors?

I just finished mounting a good set of OEM rotors from a '98 Bandit and they are nice and tight and have smooth rotor surfaces. I will test drive soon. My left rotor was so loose that it rattled over bumps and freely moved fore/aft and sideways. I still had plenty of braking at triple digit speeds but didn't want to push it (right rotor was fine) anymore.
Those EBC rotors are $200 a set? or each?
They only use 6 buttons instead of OEM 9 buttons for lighter weight?
 
Steve I'm not off the top of my head sure if your bandit uses the same 6 pot tokico calipers as the Rex but either way you may, while you're in there, break them down and grease them. They're great binders, but they have a penchant for getting sticky real easy and over heating the rotor. That heat may have caused some warp which might have been what popped those buttons
 
TheCafeKid said:
Steve I'm not off the top of my head sure if your bandit uses the same 6 pot tokico calipers as the Rex but either way you may, while you're in there, break them down and grease them. They're great binders, but they have a penchant for getting sticky real easy and over heating the rotor. That heat may have caused some warp which might have been what popped those buttons
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Bandit uses the 4 pot Nissin calipers. They move nice and freely.
Check this link showing a Kawa using the Bandit caliper to replace his 6 pot stock caliper.

http://www.kawiforums.com/newbie-corner/165920-suzuki-bandit-1200-calipers-98-zx6r.html
 
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