Short video and description on "counter-steering"

[zuluwiz]

I have always been amazed by how many riders deny that counter-steering works. Obviously they are using it, but without realizing it. If you ask them about it, they will claim it's impossible. It's not impossible, just counter-intuitive.

 

[rphillips]

The amazing ones are ie. Deuce, seasoned riders who never realized it. I wonder if nobody had told me, if I'd ever figured it out on my own. Like someone else said, my wife took one of those Motorcycle riding classes & she said counter steering was never mentioned. The course got her her license & a discount on insurance. Maybe I expected too much, but it was amazing what she didn't know when she completed it. Also, when I first learned about it, I played with it a lot, counter steer seems to me to start at just under 20 mph.

 

[93Bandit]

The amazing ones are ie. Deuce, seasoned riders who never realized it. I wonder if nobody had told me, if I'd ever figured it out on my own. Like someone else said, my wife took one of those Motorcycle riding classes & she said counter steering was never mentioned. The course got her her license & a discount on insurance. Maybe I expected too much, but it was amazing what she didn't know when she completed it. Also, when I first learned about it, I played with it a lot, counter steer seems to me to start at just under 20 mph.

I bet you would have figured it out even if you were never told about it. If you ever rode a bicycle as a kid, especially down long hills, you had to counter steer when coming into a turn. I did it all the time as a kid, however I didn't "know" I was doing it.

When I took my motorcycle course, I had a very good instructor. He was excellent at explaining and demonstrating, and made it a point to mention "push left turn left, push right turn right" and ensure everyone understood.

 

[Guest]

I prefer to think of this as "push steering" as in -- you push the handlebar in the direction you want to go. That way I'm not trying to make opposite associations in my head when I need to immediately swerve or turn.

The key thing that helped my understanding for push steering is: A motorcycle tire is rounded on its sides, and by leaning the bike, the tire now makes contact with the ground in a curved line. When we push steer, we initiate the bike to go into this leaning position.

Still, I had to see this in action, and when I watched this segment, I understood that: yes, the bike initially turns in the direction you turn the wheel, and it also causes the bike to tip in the opposite direction: https://youtu.be/_O0aEN-fN00?t=820

-Hamcake

 

[Guest]

Poor guy. He looked like an inexperienced rider who wanted his first lesson to be hauling ass on twisty roads. All he had to do to dodge the truck was stay in his very roomy lane. Wait till he learns about deer.

 

[Grimly]

Countersteering is great, but ffs don't grab a handful of brake in a corner - which is what he did, the donkey.