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MadCapsule
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Does anyone know of a tire that's similar in price and performance?
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MadCapsule
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How recently did you buy yours? I'm a bit concerned about buying them after reading this thread about the Road Riders developing cracks in the sidewalls after a month.
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=140853
I realize that thread was started back in '09, so if the problem has since been fixed, then that's great. If not, I'd rather not roll the dice.
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=140853
I realize that thread was started back in '09, so if the problem has since been fixed, then that's great. If not, I'd rather not roll the dice.
I did. Craps on the first one and still rolling on the second.....fingers crossed.
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1_v8_merc
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90% of the cracking issues seem to be surface-related, or purely cosmetic.
I can't recall anyone getting any kind of catastrophic failure from them.
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I bought my Avons BEFORE reading any kind of reviews...
Glad I bought them anyways, the leaning/traction is insane for the price!
Their probably suited for frequent track days, where you can just bring a few sets, and blast 'em on the track all day and throw 'em away.
But I have them on my daily rider, because I like to lean hard.
I can't recall anyone getting any kind of catastrophic failure from them.
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I bought my Avons BEFORE reading any kind of reviews...
Glad I bought them anyways, the leaning/traction is insane for the price!
Their probably suited for frequent track days, where you can just bring a few sets, and blast 'em on the track all day and throw 'em away.
But I have them on my daily rider, because I like to lean hard.
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TheCafeKid
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I've ran RoadRiders on every single GS I've owned. Never once had a problem.
The issue seems to be hit or miss, could have a lot to do with where they're stored by the distributor.. Who knows. Never had a problem myself. Thousands of miles on more than a couple GSes. My personal favorite combo is roadrider rear with the Avom Venom up front. The venom seems to be more "bitey" but they don't make them our rear sizes. Turn in is made quicker, handling lighter.
Fantastic tires IMO.
The issue seems to be hit or miss, could have a lot to do with where they're stored by the distributor.. Who knows. Never had a problem myself. Thousands of miles on more than a couple GSes. My personal favorite combo is roadrider rear with the Avom Venom up front. The venom seems to be more "bitey" but they don't make them our rear sizes. Turn in is made quicker, handling lighter.
Fantastic tires IMO.
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7981GS
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Bridgestone- BT-45's or Spitfire's
Pirelli- Sport Demon's
Any of the three can be taken to the edge with no surprises and the Bridgestone's last the longest.
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I've never had a problem, nor have I ever seen a problem in the several dozen of RoadRiders I've used, abused, replaced and installed on many other bikes. I've never actually seen a cracked RoadRider in person on anyone else's bike, either.
Yes, a few people have had problems and are howling their heads off. The vast majority have not. So far as I can tell, no one has suffered an actual failure or injury.
I continue to recommend and use RoadRiders.
If you absolutely require a warranty for your own peace of mind, then purchase your tires through a good local dealer and have them installed there as well so that the dealer will go to bat for you with Avon if needed. This will cost you nearly as much as two sets you install yourself, but if it makes you feel better, go right ahead.
Do whatever seems best to you.
Yes, a few people have had problems and are howling their heads off. The vast majority have not. So far as I can tell, no one has suffered an actual failure or injury.
I continue to recommend and use RoadRiders.
If you absolutely require a warranty for your own peace of mind, then purchase your tires through a good local dealer and have them installed there as well so that the dealer will go to bat for you with Avon if needed. This will cost you nearly as much as two sets you install yourself, but if it makes you feel better, go right ahead.
Do whatever seems best to you.
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MadCapsule
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If the problem is cosmetic, I may reconsider the RoadRiders.
Those Bridgestone Spitfires are the right price too. I may have to consider a set of those.
Those Bridgestone Spitfires are the right price too. I may have to consider a set of those.
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7981GS
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Have you actually logged over 100,000 miles on the Spitfires with that comment?
Daniel
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TheCafeKid
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Have you actually logged over 100,000 miles on the Spitfires with that comment?
Daniel
Anyone can look at the profile and tell you it's a better handling tire (the Roadrider). It's, yanno, round, vs squah. Then again, I suppose it depends on whether you ride more twists than straights. In which case I suppose it doesnt matter. But. If you want a tire that hooks up well, inspires a great deal of confidence leaned hard, wet or dry, and you can get 8-10K miles out of, buy the RoadRider. The Spitfires look straight out of 1979 in comparison. Just my .02.
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7981GS
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I have to agree with all of the rider's living in the "rust belt". (Flat landers)
You guys REALLY KNOW all about those twisty roads with elevation changes.
Nothing at all like the FLAT cornfields and FLAT country-side that we have to ride through
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xum567bUuR8
I bet that those Avon's are just fantastic on ALL of those twisty/high speed roads that you all encounter daily.
Care to share ANY video's of those twisty roads that you all ride on???
(Some people have different ideas as to what a twisty road is, apparently)
Daniel
You guys REALLY KNOW all about those twisty roads with elevation changes.
Nothing at all like the FLAT cornfields and FLAT country-side that we have to ride through
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xum567bUuR8
I bet that those Avon's are just fantastic on ALL of those twisty/high speed roads that you all encounter daily.
Care to share ANY video's of those twisty roads that you all ride on???
(Some people have different ideas as to what a twisty road is, apparently)
Daniel
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JES_vfr
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What sizes in particular are you trying to find?
100/90/16 frt?
120/90/17 rear?
or something in a more modern size?
like a 120/70/17 front and a 150/70/17 rear from a katana?
100/90/16 frt?
120/90/17 rear?
or something in a more modern size?
like a 120/70/17 front and a 150/70/17 rear from a katana?
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MadCapsule
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For the front, I believe I need either 90/90-19 or 100/90-19.
For the rear: 100/90-18 or it seems that I can go up to 120/90-18 without clearance issues.
For the rear: 100/90-18 or it seems that I can go up to 120/90-18 without clearance issues.
Have you actually logged over 100,000 miles on the Spitfires with that comment?
Daniel
No, once around the block is enough to know Spitfires are no where near the caliber of tire as the RoadRiders, not even in the same ballpark. I have Spitfires on three bikes now, about three others in the past, and a similar number of bikes with road riders. Much better traction, both braking and cornering traction, much better in rain, snow or whatever sandy loose muddy crap thats on the roads around here in winter. No skipping on the paint stripes, no loosy goosy stuff at all. The tires just feels more planted, more solid, more confident at all times. The more aggressive you ride, the more obvious the difference becomes. Compared to the Spitfires, there's no comparison.
I wouldn't ride on them at all if it wasn't for the fact that the bikes I buy keep showing up with Spitfires on them. I guess someone thinks they are worth buying. Not me.
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Out of curiosity... has anyone tried Dunlop TT100GP's at all? They have an excellent range of sizes for all our little wheels...
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JES_vfr
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Well I went over to Jake Wilson and found these tires
For the front 100/90/19
Avon Distanzia
Avon Venom AM41
Avon Roadrider am26
Pirelli Night Dragon
Pirelli Sport Demon
Dunlop D607 (IIRC these are oem on DRZ-SM's)
Dunlop GT501 (OEM on cruisers)
Bridgestone Battlax Bt45 (not a bad sporting tire)
Now back at the back
rear 100/90/18
Only the Avon Roadrider AM26, which seems to be a front tire.
rear 110/90/18
Avon Roadrider AM26, which again, seems to be a front tire.
Bridgestone Battlax bt45 in both h and v rated
Dunlop D404 rear
Pirelli Sport Demon rear
rear 120/80/18
Avon Distanzia
Bridgestone Battlax bt45
rear 120/90/18
Avon roadrider am26 rear
Dunlop d404
Dunlop gt501
Bridgestone Battlax bt45
Now it has been ages since I even rode a bike with the BT45's and I don't have any experience with the rest of these tires or even the touring tires I did not bother to include in this listing, but at least you can see there more choices than the spitfires or Road riders.
Still I'd consider the BT45's a safe bet, and a benchmark to compare any other tire to it.
For the front 100/90/19
Avon Distanzia
Avon Venom AM41
Avon Roadrider am26
Pirelli Night Dragon
Pirelli Sport Demon
Dunlop D607 (IIRC these are oem on DRZ-SM's)
Dunlop GT501 (OEM on cruisers)
Bridgestone Battlax Bt45 (not a bad sporting tire)
Now back at the back
rear 100/90/18
Only the Avon Roadrider AM26, which seems to be a front tire.
rear 110/90/18
Avon Roadrider AM26, which again, seems to be a front tire.
Bridgestone Battlax bt45 in both h and v rated
Dunlop D404 rear
Pirelli Sport Demon rear
rear 120/80/18
Avon Distanzia
Bridgestone Battlax bt45
rear 120/90/18
Avon roadrider am26 rear
Dunlop d404
Dunlop gt501
Bridgestone Battlax bt45
Now it has been ages since I even rode a bike with the BT45's and I don't have any experience with the rest of these tires or even the touring tires I did not bother to include in this listing, but at least you can see there more choices than the spitfires or Road riders.
Still I'd consider the BT45's a safe bet, and a benchmark to compare any other tire to it.
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MadCapsule
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Wow! You didn't have to dig all that up. I really appreciate your help.
Those Battlax bt-45's seem to be a good compromise between performance and price for my budget.
If I can scrape up the extra cash, I may still go with the Roadriders. We'll see how it goes.