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start it without a key

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Here is something strange happenning in my 82 GS550LZ:

When you look in the fuse box, there are four fuses:
15amp main
10amp headlight
10amp something
10amp something else

When you move the headlight fuse up so that it contacts both the headlight prongs and the main prongs (or move the main down, I suppose), the whole bike lights up as if the key was turned. It can be started too. The fuses also fit very nicely that way, so the bike can be driven normally.

Anybody else notice this?

At least if I lose the key away from home i can get back... :) I sure hope I don't regret telling people how to steal my bike :?
 
Enos

You don't say how you would get at your fuse panel with the seat in place. On the 1980 GS1100E bikes, the side covers are held in place by the edges of the seat (maybe you can access the panel by loosening only the bottom of the side cover?).

It was interesting to hear this. Perhaps it is time to use the steering lock.

Patrick
 
Hmm, that means the headlight fuse always has power but the main fuse only has power when the key is turned on. So, powering the main fuse starts the bike? What a sad state of affairs... Thank goodness my bike only has one fuse and you'd have to figure out the wiring in the headlight bucket to steal it. :) Plus I lock the stearing so my friends can't hide my bike on me. :roll:

Perhaps this thread should be removed so that search engines don't stumble upon it. Although I imagine we can trust the people who have read the thread.
 
Unfortunately the side cover can be easily taken off with the seat still on, and the steering lock doesn't work. The lock itself works, but the piece of metal that it's supposed to lock against is broken off (can't imagine how, but I got the bike this way). So yes, my bike can be just driven away without a key.

I was thinking of putting a small combo lock on the fuse box just to make sure :)

I wonder if this happens in any other bike. Did they change the wiring between the 80-82 bikes? If not, I'd be surprised no one noticed.
 
cutout switch

cutout switch

Enos

I am sure that you could add an in-line switch under the tank or somewhere discrete that people would not know to look for if you were concerned about unauthorized use of your bike. Alternatively, you could replace the broken metal tab to make your steering lock operative again.

Regardless, it is good to know about the fuse by-pass potential and I am glad that you posted this.

Patrick
 
if yir worried about someone ridin off with yir bike they got some cheapo front disk locks from krypto
 
Speaking from experience never trust a steering lock. All you need to do is slip a short bar over one handlebar give it a firm yank and snap goes the lock. In my paranoia I've fitted a second kill switch under the seat, that and a disc loclk give me peace of mind.
 
who cares about a kill switch? u can still roll it onto a pick up and do what ever u wish with it later
 
Currently I park next to shinier and much more expensive bikes (new crotch rockets and big twins). I don't think my bike would be a big target for thieves when they have that selection. But there are :twisted: people walking around that would probably love to take any bike and go joy riding for an hour and end up crashing it.

I know that either myself or other people I let ride my bike would forget that the disk lock is on...
 
My bike quit on me and it appeared to be a faulty ignition switch. While looking at the schematic, I noticed that all I had to do to power up the bike was to hook a short wire from the positive post of the battery to the flasher for the turn signal. This would put +12V to all the places that the key does. Had I know this before, I could have save myself having to push the bike about 3/4 mile to get it home.
:roll:
Terry
 
Enos:
The disc locks available today appear to have a bungee cord that is connected to the lock. When you put the lock on your bike you pull the bungee cord up to your handle bars and hook it on your throttle so you can't forget. Now all I have to do is drill a hole through my disc so I can use one... :)

Steve
 
does anyone have any methods of stopping someone from tipping the bike over? i understand u cant stop someone from bullrushing it but its a little too easy to just release the kick stand let gravity do the rest.
 
I read in another post you can put kryptonite anchors into the ground. Perhaps if you had two if them you could tie the bike down like it was an airplane (some airplanes will lift off of the ground if there is too much wind so they have to be tied down)

Steve
 
ice109 said:
does anyone have any methods of stopping someone from tipping the bike over? i understand u cant stop someone from bullrushing it but its a little too easy to just release the kick stand let gravity do the rest.
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You can chain/cable lock your front wheel to the centrestand. Get a chain that is just the right length.

This won't stop it from being deliberately knocked over sideways but it's more secure than anything else.

Kim
 
Re: start it without a key

enos said:
Here is something strange happenning in my 82 GS550LZ:

When you look in the fuse box, there are four fuses: ZAP

When you move the headlight fuse up so that it contacts both the headlight prongs and the main prongs (or move the main down, I suppose), the whole bike lights up as if the key was turned. It can be started too. The fuses also fit very nicely that way, so the bike can be driven normally.

Anybody else notice this?
Click to expand...

never steal a bike before ? :o))

last week I was working on my 750 (removing carbs, etc...), than reinstalling all in the frame and want to try the result

but I forget my key at home
no problem, I just put a wire between the start relay and a fuse (I always forgot witch fuse, so I've to try until the lights neutral and oil are on ), then press the start button, it's done

previous time I did it, it's with the bike of a friend, a policeman

he lost his key when shopping and the other one was at home (no steering lock)

he looks very surprised how easy it is to do :o))

V++
Rackham
 
i wonder if the same effect can be achieved on a car, is there any part of a car that is always on?
 
odd bend

odd bend

Hi

I think it is very true that locks only keep honest people out. If someone wants your bike badly enough, they will get it.

If you are really concerned about theft, you can get a wireless video camera for about $US 100 in an electronics store to monitor your bike. As well, you could put an alarm on it.

As to car electrics, you must have never seen a slide hammer being used (in a movie) to remove an ignition module. Rent Gone in 60 Seconds. A classic film for the enthusiast.

Patrick
 
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