Starting Problem!!! Please help

[Anonymous]

Just Picked up a 1982 GS850GZ Police criuser. It starts fine but after a ride if I shut it down then try to start it again, it turns slow and won't start. I checked the charging system and it is fine. The battery is fully charged as well. If I let the bike sit 10 minutes it starts right up.

The starter makes a weird whinning noise when starting, doesn't sound normal. Can it be my starter?? It has a brand new rectifier. Any help would be great..

Thanks

 

[Anonymous]

Police Cruiser? I saw one today dragging half of its chrome through a turn today. :lol: I thought I was hearing something being dragged behind a car until I saw the police bike bumping and wobling through a lazy right hand turn. I hope your bike can pull through the turns better than the cops around here. Atleast I found out I can outrun the cops through the twisties in 2nd gear.

Good luck with your problem, Steve

 

[argonsagas]

Could be the starter is overheating, but the first thing I would look at is a poor electrical ground.

 

[Anonymous]

police bike

police bike

Can you post a picture of your bike ?
I have a fondness for police bikes and as I own a 79 and 82 850 I would love to see one in police form.

 

[redliner1973]

Most of the police bikes on the road today are H-D.....no wonder it scraped all over the road and got beat out in the twisties!!!!!!!

 

[Anonymous]

Where should I look for the bad ground, any particular wires??

 

[Anonymous]

Form the battery, the ground goes down to a bolt on the rear of the tranny housing. Easiest to reach with battery box removed and a few extensions. Bob

 

[moto_dan]

I've had to disassemble and clean starters and install new brushes over the years on various bikes with similiar symptoms, but as previuosly suggested, check your connections first.

 

[Anonymous]

I saw a GS 850 Police bike for sale on eBay a while ago. They look pretty cool!
GY

 

[Anonymous]

Thats the one I picked up. It was in New Hampshire and I drove it back to Connecticut 240 miles ran Great!! except for the starting issue

 

[Anonymous]

Try push starting her !!
If she starts, she is allright and just have somthing wrong with the starter!
(electrical failure)

 

[Anonymous]

She push starts with no problem, What do you mean by electrical failure??

 

[Anonymous]

She push starts with no problem, What do you mean by electrical failure??

He means that you can rule out mechanical failure; And you can go back to looking for bad grounds, loose connections, etc. Make sure to check those connections at the starter motor, and investing in some electrical contact cleaner wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[Jay B]

I had the same problems when I first got my 850. It was the clutch safety switch. Repair, replace or remove it.

 

[Anonymous]

Why is it that after it cools down for 15 minutes it starts right up. How can that relate to a Clutch relay or ground wire??

 

[Anonymous]

I never had a problem with my starter on the bike (knock wood). But I’ve experienced these symptoms on the old GM’s that I’ve owned. And to fix the problem I would take the starter off and have them rebuilt at a electric motor shop. This would always fix the problem. I never really understood why it would start after cooling for a bit. :?

Roman

 

[moto_dan]

Why is it that after it cools down for 15 minutes it starts right up. How can that relate to a Clutch relay or ground wire??

Because, temp differences can cause erractic symptoms on electrical connections. Just the heating and cooling of connections can cause them to be less than adequate and combining that with some corrosion one could experience the condition you describe, but after cleaning and checking all the connections on the battery and starter, I would pull the starter apart for a good cleaning and possible brush replacement. Even a battery that is less than 100% can contribute to your problem.

 

[redliner1973]

One reason is that when things electrical heat up, the resistance in the wiring and windings of the motor gets worse. Kinda the same way that your car is hard to start in the winter, but in reverse. So when cold, less resistance, easier start, when hot, more resisitance, hard or no start.

 

[Anonymous]

another thought is that if there is a broken wire in there somewhere it may lay in such a way as to make contact when cool--the heat causing expansian could possibley cause the broken wire to move away a bit and then an open circuit would occur.