What Reg Rec To buy?

[salty_monk]

Is it showing "0" ohms or is it showing that there is zero continuity? Does your meter have a continuity setting (usually an audible buzzer). "0" is bad as that means the insulation is breached & you have a dead short but no continuity is good... that's what you want!

The only other way to test a stator is running. You should be able to measure about 60-80v AC between any of the three legs (measure them in pairs till you've measured each combination). Good luck!

Youtube "how to" here:
https://youtu.be/9IOFGcl_29U?si=iXuKlKevomGrQVgt

 

[pdqford]

Question about this.... WHat do you do with the other wires... I have 3 yellows... no problem.. there is also a black white,red and an orange that went into another molex connector that leads to the harness. I get the red connection, what about the other two?

The black/white wire is the ground for the R/R.

The solid ,Orange wire runs from the ignition switch, through a connector, and continues on to the fuse box. When the ignition key is in the "ON" position, that solid Orange wire then supplies power to all three of the 10 amp fuses in the fuse box.

 

[Ccitis]

The black/white wire is the ground for the R/R.

The solid ,Orange wire runs from the ignition switch, through a connector, and continues on to the fuse box. When the ignition key is in the "ON" position, that solid Orange wire then supplies power to all three of the 10 amp fuses in the fuse box.

Right, so I can account for all the other wires... I have a diagram I can see that, but the new reg rec does not have a connection for the orange black. So what do people do with this to close the loop?

 

[pdqford]

Right, so I can account for all the other wires... I have a diagram I can see that, but the new reg rec does not have a connection for the orange black. So what do people do with this to close the loop?

Orange/black? I was responding to your previous post, which was:

Question about this.... WHat do you do with the other wires... I have 3 yellows... no problem.. there is also a black white, red and an orange that went into another molex connector that leads to the harness. I get the red connection, what about the other two?

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My post was in regards to only the black/white wire and to the orange wire, as you said you knew where the red wire goes. What is this orange/black wire of which you now speak?

 

[Nessism]

What R/R did you buy? Based on your comments, not a SH775.

 

[Ccitis]

Lets make this easier with photos. I am removing the OEM original reg rec. I can account for the stator wires, no problem. I can account for the red power wire, and the black and white ground. No problem.

Now you are left with a orange and black wire out of the old reg rec, that connects to a molex connecter that on my bike has a orange wire, that then goes to an orange green wire in the harness. The diagram for the SH775 does not take into account how to preserve this circuit. I am trying to figure out, what happens to this connection, as it would now have no power from the reg rec.

 

[Ccitis]

because this site only allows one photo at a time....

 

[Nessism]

Tape off the existing harness connections for the stator and R/R, and wire per my diagram. The only connection you should put back to the harness, is the red power wire output from the R/R.

 

[Ccitis]

Tape off the existing harness connections for the stator and R/R, and wire per my diagram. The only connection you should put back to the harness, is the red power wire output from the R/R.

Ok. I am trying to learn electrical... so what happens to the stuff that is on that orange/ orange green circuit into the harness?

 

[pdqford]

Ok. I am trying to learn electrical... so what happens to the stuff that is on that orange/ orange green circuit into the harness?

If you are changing the R/R, I find no Orange or Orange/Green wire that connects to the R/R.

Right, so I can account for all the other wires... I have a diagram I can see that, but the new reg rec does not have a connection for the orange black. So what do people do with this to close the loop?

I have been through two wiring diagrams for the GS1100 bikes. No place can I find an Orange/Black wire. And the legend for wire colors on these diagrams don't even list an Orange/Black as a wire color.

Maybe you have a bike that had the wiring modified by a PO.​

 

[Brendan W]

Any chance of a picture of the old R/R or how many connections in and out does it have?
The original would have had five connections. Three inputs from the generator, one supply,red, to a tee in the harness and a ground which may not be a wire but just grounding through the casing.
Some alternate R/R had more wires. For example a separate sense wire and a separate ground wire in addition to the four mentioned above.
The Orange/Green is probably the bike's supply wire for lights, horn etc and this could be a choice for location of a 'sense' wire for one of those fancy R/R.
With the SH 775 setup you revert to stock with three inputs from the generator, red output to the harness tee and a ground wire to a good earth.
The wire to the Orange/Green wire is redundant.

 

[Ccitis]

Ok, so I have done some thinking. Pics below are of the RR. I have a feeling this is an old replacement. As you can see, it has a orange black, that goes to an orange wire. So what I need to figure out, is what that orange wire needs to do now with the new RR. Fun Fun. Any thoughts are helpful.

 

[Ccitis]

Second photo of harness

 

[Ccitis]

photo of the molex connector where the old RR connected. Also had the stator connector.

 

[pdqford]

Ok, so I have done some thinking. Pics below are of the RR. I have a feeling this is an old replacement. As you can see, it has a orange black, that goes to an orange wire. So what I need to figure out, is what that orange wire needs to do now with the new RR. Fun Fun. Any thoughts are helpful.

Does that regulator pictured have 5 or 6 wires going into the regulator?

And I see three yellow wires coming out of the regulator and going into that black sheathing but only two yellow wires coming out of the black sheathing and connected to that black connector. Where does that third yellow wire go if not connected to the black connector?

 

[Ccitis]

Does that regulator pictured have 5 or 6 wires going into the regulator?

And I see three yellow wires coming out of the regulator and going into that black sheathing but only two yellow wires coming out of the black sheathing and connected to that black connector. Where does that third yellow wire go if not connected to the black connector?

6 wires. Just the angle. All are accounted for except this orange/orange black. I wonder if I can just split off the red power wire, and power the circuit that way.... Obviously it has been messed with in the past!

 

[Brendan W]

Is your new R/R a five or six wire type?
I run a five wire SH775. Three generator inputs, red + output to harness and black - to ground.
The original set up was five wire on most if not all of these machines.
Six wire units can be used with wiring additions.
You can revert to five no problem.

 

[pdqford]

6 wires. Just the angle. All are accounted for except this orange/orange black. I wonder if I can just split off the red power wire, and power the circuit that way.... Obviously it has been messed with in the past!

Ah, so six wire is not the original regulator!

I'm gonna guess that the Orange/Black wire coming out of the regulator is a sensing wire to monitor the system's voltage and is not a Suzuki wire or wire color. Looks like a PO connected that Orange/Black wire to the solid orange wire (which is a Suzuki original wire). That Orange wire comes from the ignition switch and is only hot when the ignition key is in the "on" position, allowing the regulator to monitor system voltage when the key is "on".

Now for the rest of my question from my previous post:

"And I see three yellow wires coming out of the regulator and going into that black sheathing but only two yellow wires coming out of the black sheathing and connected to that black connector. Where does that third yellow wire go if not connected to the black connector?"

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[Nessism]

That R/R looks aftermarket. The stock wiring for the 1100E has 5 wires going to the R/R. I don't want to guess what that Orange/Black wire is for, since a wrong decision could damage something.

 

[Ccitis]

Now that I know that the original was a 5 wire setup, I should be able to just re wire back to the stock config. We shall see how that goes. Waiting on a gasket for the cover... in the mail. Still have an oil leak at the case seam that is driving me nuts.... lol