Whats a guy gotts to do do get the CS nut loose??

[TheCafeKid]

Sheesh! I have never had this problem with a bike. 82 1100E. I thought I had busted this sucker loose a couple days ago, turns out I was seeing things (actually I think i slipped it into neutral on accident with the air impact gun) I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of short of putting a chain on it (The chain is off, which I realize is a mistake NOW, but Ive never had this problem before with an air impact gun) I have gone to town on this thing with the AIG, a torch to heat it (thinking maybe someone used the wrong loctite) Breaker bar, etc. I have a new chain to put on it, and I suppose I can put it on, but it seems damn silly to do so, just to take it back off to put the new CS sprocket on. Anyone else have any ideas???

 

[Theo]

Back in my bicycle days, I used a tool like this to get the sprocket off

I'm pretty sure I've seen something like this at the auto parts store. Maybe you can give that a try.

I just remembered what it's called: A chain whip.

 

[salty_monk]

The thing you've seen like that at the Auto store is most likely an oil filter wrench....

Do you have plugs in the engine? That will help to provide resistance. Also put it in 5th gear as again you'll have more resistance.

I also expect you could fashion some kind of tool to jam the sprocket against either the case or the floor, even with loctite on it heat should release it.

Dan

 

[rapidray]

Put the chain on or put it in gear & use at LEAST 100 lbs of air pressure with a 1/2 inch air impact. It will come off. One other thing, test the gun to make sure it is turning the CORRECT direction! I've seen it before!!! LOL!!! Ray.

 

[Steve]

Also put it in 5th gear as again you'll have more resistance.

Since you are applying pressure to the output and trying to resist with the engine, you will be better off by putting it in FIRST gear.

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[salty_monk]

I don't see that Steve... It must require more torque from a stop to turn the engine through 5th gear in either direction - doesn't make sense any other way.

 

[tkent02]

Steve's right. Think it through.
One turn of the sprocket in first gear needs a lot more turns of the crank, it is easy to turn the engine in fifth.

 

[Big T]

Put the chain on, block the back wheel, get your 18" breaker bar and take it off!!

That's all I needed.

 

[salty_monk]

Steve's right. Think it through.
One turn of the sprocket in first gear needs a lot more turns of the crank, it is easy to turn the engine in fifth.

Ok, I'll agree with you guys... It's not that important

There's a saying in England: "The lazy man works hardest" by which we mean that it's probably easier just to put the chain back on & block the wheel rather than work harder trying to find an "easy" work around.

Dan

 

[Kcwiro]

Remove while chain is attached and whell blocked...and a large breaker bar no problems...

 

[jwhelan65]

Josh,

Try making a different face if that dosn't work I always go with big power tools.

 

[duaneage]

Use the chain and allow it to spool up on the cog until it contacts the engine.
On CloudbreakMD's bike we had to use a 2 foot breaker and hang onto the bike.

The nut should only have about 30-40 lbs of torque. It has a lock washer to secure it, anymore than required is crazy.

 

[Suzuki_Don]

I dont know what tension the sprocket nut is on an 1100, but on my 650 the quoted torque is 66 to 73 LBS/FT

 

[Sandy]

Use the chain and allow it to spool up on the cog until it contacts the engine.
On CloudbreakMD's bike we had to use a 2 foot breaker and hang onto the bike.

The nut should only have about 30-40 lbs of torque. It has a lock washer to secure it, anymore than required is crazy.

Would you not run the risk of knocking a hole in the engine case if the sprocket was too tight. On older 750 Hondas you would for sure.

 

[gs road racer]

Most are put on with a 1/2" impact gun very few use a torque wrench so they should come of with an air impact and the chain on the rear sprocket and rear brake locked up. Do not bunch the chain up crankcase damage is possible as with any bike. Maybe someone put loctite on it then that's a real problem.

Randy

 

[salty_monk]

If it has loctite on it then you just need to get it HOT!

 

[TheCafeKid]

If it has loctite on it then you just need to get it HOT!

tried that. I got it so hot I was afraid to heat it anymore for fear of screwing up the CS seal. Didnt budge. Gonna put the chain on it and deal with it that way. Someone really put that sucker on there..

 

[tkent02]

There was one stuck on one of my bikes last year.
Got it off with a big breaker bar, and the chain blocked to prevent turning.
When it finally let go, I sprained my ankle.
Pop! pop!
The second pop was the ankle.