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If the clutch cable was broken there would be no resistance at the lever.
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Very true indeed! Thanks Bill for pointing out my assinine thought process!! LOL You say that it goes into all gears but wont roll tho?? ANOTHER assinine theory...have you checked that the rear brake isnt locked up?? At the moment mine is. and it has the same symptoms. But that still doesnt explain the not starting.
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Btw Bill, when ya hit me with the shovel for being an idiot, kindly, not in the face?? LOL
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I'm into sneak attacks. \\
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Thats ok..im a ninja..:-D
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Jbeaber
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Well ,another evening of banging my head against the gas tank with no positive results. Things I checked (and bypassed)
1. kill switch - checked it and bypassed it with a wire. When I flip the switch just normally I do see a very slight dimming of the head light in the on position as compared to off. Doesn't seem to be the problem.
2. clutch electrical switch - checked it and bypassed it with no result
3. fuses - all intact
4. start button - I had done some work to it. one of the tiny screws was missing when I got the bike. it is back in holding the assembly in place. All looked well there. I did not disassemble it last night, though
So, I am going to check the side stand electrical switch. Who knows, maybe it got bumped while the bike was propped during the tire change. It really seems like an electrical issue since i am not getting any response when the button is pushed. the rear brake isn't locked because the bike rolls just fine in neutral. I may need to check a lot of connections with the voltmeter to see if I can determine where there is a break. I'm not all that good at the electrical stuff, but I'll try to figure it out.
Can I unscrew the clutch cable connection to the engine without opening the engine side cover? Can I open the engine side cover without an oily mess? I can't check the clutch plate binding issue. If it is two separate problems, it is weird that they occurred simultaneously....
1. kill switch - checked it and bypassed it with a wire. When I flip the switch just normally I do see a very slight dimming of the head light in the on position as compared to off. Doesn't seem to be the problem.
2. clutch electrical switch - checked it and bypassed it with no result
3. fuses - all intact
4. start button - I had done some work to it. one of the tiny screws was missing when I got the bike. it is back in holding the assembly in place. All looked well there. I did not disassemble it last night, though
So, I am going to check the side stand electrical switch. Who knows, maybe it got bumped while the bike was propped during the tire change. It really seems like an electrical issue since i am not getting any response when the button is pushed. the rear brake isn't locked because the bike rolls just fine in neutral. I may need to check a lot of connections with the voltmeter to see if I can determine where there is a break. I'm not all that good at the electrical stuff, but I'll try to figure it out.
Can I unscrew the clutch cable connection to the engine without opening the engine side cover? Can I open the engine side cover without an oily mess? I can't check the clutch plate binding issue. If it is two separate problems, it is weird that they occurred simultaneously....
Far as I can see if pulling the clutch lever doesn't actually physically pull the clutch but does give resistance it could a few things:
1. Cable broke & jammed in sheath - Check movement at engine end.
2. Lever on top of post coming out of clutch cover has stripped splines & is spinning on the post (but still with resistance as it's broken!)
3. The post to pressure plate mechanism is broken or stripped.
4. Something is mangles inside, maybe a plate disintegrated or something.
The electrical issue seems to be something different.
Hotwire the clutch switch, hotwire the "run switch" & try touching together the two wires from the start button. That will tell you for definite if it's one of the switches.
Yes you can look at the clutch without draining oil, do it on the sidestand. You will lose a little bit though so put a tray underneath.
Dan
1. Cable broke & jammed in sheath - Check movement at engine end.
2. Lever on top of post coming out of clutch cover has stripped splines & is spinning on the post (but still with resistance as it's broken!)
3. The post to pressure plate mechanism is broken or stripped.
4. Something is mangles inside, maybe a plate disintegrated or something.
The electrical issue seems to be something different.
Hotwire the clutch switch, hotwire the "run switch" & try touching together the two wires from the start button. That will tell you for definite if it's one of the switches.
Yes you can look at the clutch without draining oil, do it on the sidestand. You will lose a little bit though so put a tray underneath.
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I think there's a good chance your clutch is just fine. You could try pushing it in second gear--you'll get better leverage. You should look at your starter next. It's under a little cover under the carbs. You could try push starting your bike too.
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If you're light is dim you have a dead battery.
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Jbeaber
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So, we have answers.
All those who suggested it could be bound clutch plates, you are right!
The electrical problem, however... That is one of those things that reminds us that we are not nearly as smart as we sometimes think we are. I checked the clutch switch. I checked the kill switch. I checked the start button. I got the wiring diagram and mapped out the whole system. I started to follow all the wires so I could take voltmeter readings looking for broken wires. I started to follow the wires from the clutch electrical switch when I came across.... an unplugged wire. Yeah.... That's it... More updates in the project bike update....
All those who suggested it could be bound clutch plates, you are right!
The electrical problem, however... That is one of those things that reminds us that we are not nearly as smart as we sometimes think we are. I checked the clutch switch. I checked the kill switch. I checked the start button. I got the wiring diagram and mapped out the whole system. I started to follow all the wires so I could take voltmeter readings looking for broken wires. I started to follow the wires from the clutch electrical switch when I came across.... an unplugged wire. Yeah.... That's it... More updates in the project bike update....
