wire diagram colors not matching with coil - different colors

[teamf4]

Got the wire harness pretty much on. some things didn't match up, so we'll see.

Question is.....can you hook up the coils backwards? so if we guess wrong, we might ruin something?

Thanks!!

 

[Nessism]

I don't think so, the plug are different no?

 

[teamf4]

There are 2 sets, two connectors for each coil.

One set is white and orange with white strip

The other is orange with white strip and black with yellow strip

The diagram we have does not have those colors on it. The guy who was helping us had to leave. He does not live around us, so he will probably not be able to come back to help anymore.

I can not tell from looking at the diagram what colors are what either.

Lost at this point......UGH!!

 

[teamf4]

This is what I did.

on the right coil, hooked the black/yellow strip to the positive side and the orange/white strip to the negative side.

on the left coil, hooked the orange/white strip to the positive and the white wire to the negative

Just reading what I wrote,
On the left coil shouse I switch it. Since both sets have an orange/white strip wire, should that one go to the same (negative or positive) spot?

Thanks!!

 

[skreemer]

Worst case scenario the coils fire in the wrong order and you have to just switch them around. I was thinking about it on the ride home.

You get a chance to re-solder and test the "botched" connection running to the ignition/gauge cluster?

 

[Nessism]

This is what I did.

on the right coil, hooked the black/yellow strip to the positive side and the orange/white strip to the negative side.

on the left coil, hooked the orange/white strip to the positive and the white wire to the negative

Just reading what I wrote,
On the left coil shouse I switch it. Since both sets have an orange/white strip wire, should that one go to the same (negative or positive) spot?

Thanks!!

O/W is the common between the two coils and goes to the positive side. The W wire goes to the 1-4 coil and the B/Y goes to 2-3.

All this is in the service manual so you might want to make yourself a copy (download from Basscliff's site if you don't already have it).

 

[teamf4]

Worst case scenario the coils fire in the wrong order and you have to just switch them around. I was thinking about it on the ride home.

You get a chance to re-solder and test the "botched" connection running to the ignition/gauge cluster?

stuck the battery in, connected the "bothched" connection....nothing.

did not change the wires on the coil though, would this matter??

 

[Guest]

O/W is the common between the two coils and goes to the positive side. The W wire goes to the 1-4 coil and the B/Y goes to 2-3.

All this is in the service manual so you might want to make yourself a copy (download from Basscliff's site if you don't already have it).

This is good info

 

[skreemer]

O/W is the common between the two coils and goes to the positive side. The W wire goes to the 1-4 coil and the B/Y goes to 2-3.

All this is in the service manual so you might want to make yourself a copy (download from Basscliff's site if you don't already have it).

It shouldn't make a difference if the coils are in or not, the guage cluster should come on when you put a battery in and tun the key to "on".

 

[Guest]

I bet the fuse block is burnt.

 

[teamf4]

I bet the fuse block is burnt.

This might sound dumb....but what is the fuse block?

Thanks!!

 

[rustybronco]

The thing under the white cover.

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[teamf4]

Thank you rustybronco!! That was helpful to see.

Replaced all the fuses. Went thru 5 because the second one down kept popping. So, ran out of the 10's and put a 20 in it just to see....now it works.

Don't understand it. Is this ok? can it stay like that since it works like that? Is it because we replaced the wire harness with a different one? I don't know, but if it's ok to run like that, it's working.

UGH....now to tackle the switches and such. Still don't know about that, but just had a small victory!!

 

[rustybronco]

Went thru 5 because the second one down kept popping. So, ran out of the 10's and put a 20 in it just to see....now it works.

Don't understand it. Is this ok?

Fuse #2 should be for...
10A. HD lamp fuse protects headlight, taillight, license plate, instrument lights, high beam light

NOT! okay to stay that way...

do you have a copy of the owners manual? http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/gs/GS1100GK_Owners_Manual.pdf

 

[teamf4]

I'm not electrical so don't know what to do now. Any suggestions?

The headlight, tail light, blinkers and right/left control switches are not attached to the new wire harness yet. Would that possibly be causing this issue?

That is where I am stuck, can't figure out this part.

 

[rustybronco]

The headlight, tail light, blinkers and right/left control switches are not attached to the new wire harness yet. Would that possibly be causing this issue?

No...

Got the wire harness pretty much on. some things didn't match up, so we'll see.

What didn't match up?

describe the difference I.E. the colors-stripes and number of wires in the connector on both harnesses. did you have any connectors left over (if so, describe...)

did you see the wiring diagram on page 68? of the owners manual I linked?

>>> "help me see what you are seeing"<<<

 

[Larry D]

Yes...what Mr rustybronco said. Post up some detailed pics and descriptions of your troubles. I can see where they go and help from my '84 GK.

Also, slow down.....don't try to fix it all in a few hours, it's going to take some time and patience. We'll get there and you''ll be riding again in no time.

If I may ask....what specifically caused the fire in the first place ?

 

[teamf4]

Not sure how it started, but thinking it was just a short in the wiring under there.

Below are some videos, I also took pictures. Got the harness from jwhelan65, believe he said it was from an 1100g. But it's definatly been messed with by someone before.

In this video, I am showing some extra wiring coming out from around the battery area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxLMacjSMg

This one, showing the charred stuff and showing the front.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FSSKtPDJes

I did download off BassCliff's link the manual and a colored wire diagram. But at this point.....I don't know.

 

[rustybronco]

Replaced all the fuses. Went thru 5 because the second one down kept popping. So, ran out of the 10's and put a 20 in it just to see....now it works.

There is a reason for the fuses blowing. now you get to find out why.

Not sure how it started, but thinking it was just a short in the wiring under there.

Because of the high current flow you are seeing with the #2 fuse blowing repeatedly, the cause of the short appears to still exist even after the wiring change. that would lead me to "guess" there is a short in one of the sockets for the lighting, or maybe something as simple as an improper tail light bulb usage. i.e. 1156 in place of a 1157.

Got the harness from jwhelan65, believe he said it was from an 1100g.

I sure looks to be from a 1982 up 850/1100g.

But it's definatly been messed with by someone before.

Yes it has.

it looks like some one has added two extra connectors for what might be used with heated gloves or a vest. the eyelet wire (black/white) looks to be a factory ground, but I couldn't see clearly enough where it came from.

In this video, I am showing some extra wiring coming out from around the battery area.

Those two wire connectors should be the ones for the fuel tank float (sending unit).

 

[teamf4]

Here is a closer pic of the black wire/white strip. It is coming out of the bottom of the white connector

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0711.jpg

This is a picture of the 2 wires coming out of the harness further up. One is yellow/black strip the other black/white strip

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0712.jpg

These 2 pictures show the blue wire coming out with a red wire to a white end connector with a messed up connection for another connector. It's a long line of wire. My finger is pointing to where it comes out of the harness, right before the battery.

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0717.jpg

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0719.jpg

Thanks for all the help!!