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  • earlfor
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    • May 2002
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    • off grid cabin 1/24/26 7pm

    #16
    Originally posted by AMK
    He's going to go naked with it at first and thats the way I like them too. I agree with you that they are becoming more interesting to me also.
    I think you should convince him to at least wear a helmet. he eh
    Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.

    I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion. H.D.T.

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    • Guest

      #17
      Originally posted by earlfor
      I think you should convince him to at least wear a helmet. he eh
      Oh, no. I'll take a picture and post it on Fakebook

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      • 850 Combat
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        • Sep 2006
        • 6018
        • Spokane, WA, and Hampden, ME

        #18
        Originally posted by Steve
        Just a couple tidbits to offer:
        1. The carbs are a pain. They are a bit tricky just to get to them, then just a bit fiddly to work on. Pay attention to details.
        2. Check the stator. Yep, it has a stator and R/R, just like the GS, but the big difference is that you have to remove the engine from the frame to access the stator. It would benefit from a Polaris R/R, just like a GS.

        .
        Are the cam belts an issure? If they haven't been changed, they are pretty old now.
        sigpic Too old, too many bikes, too many cars, too many things

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        • Guest

          #19
          I turned him on to ngwclub and goldwingdocs and he has been doing his homework.
          He's read about the timing belts.
          Right now the starter is locked up but the engine and tranny are free.
          I want to test the stator and clutch first but the engine needs to come out for the starter as well. I love my GS even more now!
          Still in triage to determine a methodical approach before he spends money on it.

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          • Steve
            GS Whisperer
            • Jun 2005
            • 35925
            • southwest oHIo

            #20
            Cam belts should be done every 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. They will likely still look brand-new, but you will KNOW their condition when you replace them.

            Also, be sure to replace the tensioners while you are in there. Yeah, it's a few more bucks, but the price is rather small, compared to replacing an engine if it grenades because the cam belts slipped a tooth or three. I don't remember for sure if the 1100 was an "interference" engine or not. I think that there WILL be considerable damage if a belt breaks, because the valves will be open and hit by the pistons, which are still moving. If that happens, it is MUCH easier, quicker and cheaper to get a new engine.

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              #21
              Thanks Steve, it truly is a priority for him. He owned a Honda Civic that came with the same warnings and borrowed time (or mileage).
              I haven't checked yet but i hope one could do that, at least, with the engine in.

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              • Steve
                GS Whisperer
                • Jun 2005
                • 35925
                • southwest oHIo

                #22
                Yep, engine stays in the frame, the belt covers come right off. I don't remember details on the 1100, they might have a re-useable gasket (o-ring type thing), but check the parts fiche first.

                I replaced the belts on my 1500 Wing at about 135,000 miles. They still looked new, but the tensioners (especially the right one) were starting to rumble a bit.

                While the belts are off, be sure to inspect/replace the water pump. There is probably a good guide on goldwingdocs or on randakk. The greatest cause of water pump failure is lack of maintenance and use of the wrong fluid, so pay attention to what is recommended. They do NOT use the same coolant as the GSes.

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                sigpic
                mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                Family Portrait
                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                  #23
                  Steve, sometimes I use wet roads for engine cooling but it's not always favorable.

                  Just got on Randakk's website to search starter removal and man is it good. The possibility of losing the starter sprocket and chain (?) forcing engine removal is a myth.

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                  • bwringer
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                    #24
                    Make sure you also have a good title. Lots of cool old bikes have become parts collections thanks to Indiana's draconian BMV (Bureau of Motorcycle Victimization), and from the tales I've heard, Ohio's rabble of bureaucrats is about the same or worse.

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                      #25
                      My son- in- law tells me there's a title but I haven't seen it yet. I'm not sure he has it yet. He's still waiting on the keys
                      I don't know the guy he got it from but I'm hoping he didn't pick up a parts bike.
                      He can be impulsive at times.

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        Quick starter question

                        20170614_084724.jpg If I test from this terminal to the case should i see continuity?

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                        • Steve
                          GS Whisperer
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 35925
                          • southwest oHIo

                          #27
                          Yes, you will probably see continuity. That lead is for the power that will spin the starter. It goes from there, through one brush, through the windings on the armature, through another brush and on to the case, which is grounded to complete the circuit.

                          Not sure what resistance value you should see, but it should be a bit above zero.

                          .
                          sigpic
                          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                          Family Portrait
                          Siblings and Spouses
                          Mom's first ride
                          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            Thank you Steve, I see zero resistance.

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                            • Wingsconsin
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                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1725
                              • Sussex Wisconsin

                              #29
                              The GL1100 starter was a known weak spot.
                              There is a thread discussing how to rebuild them on Goldwing Docs forum

                              Here -->>
                              http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=259




                              After I finished it --


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                              • Guest

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bwringer
                                Make sure you also have a good title. Lots of cool old bikes have become parts collections thanks to Indiana's draconian BMV (Bureau of Motorcycle Victimization), and from the tales I've heard, Ohio's rabble of bureaucrats is about the same or worse.

                                Post lots of pics!
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                                Do not twist a single bolt or buy anything until you have the title in your name (son's name) and it's safely tucked into your desk drawer. I have literally seen it dozens and dozens of times people start wrenching and dropping cash only to figure out they don't have a title or can't get a title easily.

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