77 Yammy XS 750 Triple

[steve murdoch]

Chuck, i always enjoy following your resto threads regardless the make and/or model.
Keep at it and please keep sharing the progress. I ALWAYS learn something.

 

[chuck hahn]

And I call it a RECONDITIONING. Call it a clean up or whatever you want i guess.

 

[chuck hahn]

Jeff..as to clarify your assumptions.

Fork tubes are rusted and pitted so I did the trees on them so I could at least have a roller..I dont have a dedicated spot to just leave it set. I knew they were to replaced so who gives a sh!t if paint gets on them????
Tires...use what you have until new can be bought.
Time...if you worry about that it will ruin the fun.
Proper steps...whats "proper" to you may not apply to anothers views or the cash availability at the time. Or the demands of the build once you start finding those ever hidden issues
Excess money..... Im gonna have around 11 or 1200 into it...maybe about what its actually gonna be worth, but thats not my motivation with bikes.
Its a flipper...i have said it at least 100 times. IM NOT A FLIPPER.
IRC tires.... Modern tire with a vintage tread pattern. Whats your issue with them? IRC as a brand or the tread? Its a good road tire actually..have you used them yet before berating them???

Anythhting else anyone wants to pile on???

 

[rphillips]

It's hard to imagine how people can criticize the work others are doing, without knowing the plans & ideas of the one doing the work. It appears Chuck is doing exactly what "HE" wants to do, & doing a darn good job of it. Heck, there are old Z1's & CBX's showing up more & more, but when will you ever be able to see an old Yamaha 750 triple. I love seeing any old bike that's been brought back from the dead, the rarer the better & this old thing is pretty darn rare. Keep it up Chuck, I'll may want to criticize it later, but for now, it's looking good.

 

[wymple]

I only wish I had the time, patience, and skills of Chuck. I, and a couple other people I know (old farts) just hate to see something go that can be resurrected. Chuck is a release for us.

 

[nvr2old]

I think it should also be said that projects/rebuilds/restorations on this site, are fewer and fewer..all the time. I remember when this site had a dozen or so at any given point, but those have dribbled to just a few. I miss those days. I used to love going to the Appearance forum and seeing all the stuff going on..that is now basically a ghost town. I relish updates on Pete's Kat and the others that are being worked on..but to come here and dis someone whether it's Chuck or otherwise is just plain BS. We should be happy he and others continue to share their work with us. The alternative..is to have a site empty of the privilege.

 

[exdirtbiker]

Chuck, I am amazed what you have done with most of your stuff. Not sure -why- you do some of them, but that's none of my biz.
Some folks should learn the difference between questioning and attacking.

Having said that, my neighbor across the street still has not sold his brothers' XS750 with 1143 miles on it. He's now hoping the "offered me $2000 guy" will ever call him back.

https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1977-yamaha-xs750-triple-only/6673904933.html

or

https://www.thegsresources.com/_for...ughts-on-a-1977-Yamaha-XS-750-with-1100-miles

 

[Guest]

Wow, that's a beauty. I hope it goes to somebody who keeps it original.

 

[Nessism]

I think it should also be said that projects/rebuilds/restorations on this site, are fewer and fewer..all the time. I remember when this site had a dozen or so at any given point, but those have dribbled to just a few. I miss those days. I used to love going to the Appearance forum and seeing all the stuff going on..that is now basically a ghost town. I relish updates on Pete's Kat and the others that are being worked on..but to come here and dis someone whether it's Chuck or otherwise is just plain BS. We should be happy he and others continue to share their work with us. The alternative..is to have a site empty of the privilege.

Totally agree.

It's a damn shame that this thread has been brought down and sidetracked away from what it is: a restoration thread. If I were the mod here I'd delete some of these responses and allow Chuck to continue on without the peanut gallery comments.

We need more build threads here. I suppose the sentiment regarding the viability of the build does reflect a somewhat broader opinion though since the lack of build threads goes hand in hand with those that think it's worth the effort. Personally, I've made money on most of the builds that I've done if I don't count my labor into the cost. That's generally good enough for me since I enjoy the project aspect. To each their own though.

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Time wasted is not worth comment. Just the skilled labor cost of bringing the maintenance up to date is a loss. Then add updating worn out parts like chain & sprockets, brake lines, pads, tires.
This is a worthy hobby, a business too if you can find wealthy clients. Chuck just might be discovered by a few of those.

 

[chuck hahn]

Many of the items you listed are normal wear parts anyway Bill. The harder stuff is master cylinders, calipers, side covers, tanks. I got a place that makes lines for reasonable cost so they arent an issue for me.

 

[chuck hahn]

So heres some pics of the muffler rehab till I can find a good one to transplant. Bottom right side was rotted almost half the diameter of the muffler and a full 7 inches long. I took an old Harley skin and cut the patch and welded it in with the MIG welder. Nothing pretty about it but it is usable as is for now. Ground welds down and used some JB Weld Extreme Heat to fill some spots that were too thin to weld on. Sanded the JB down and hit the area with VHT silver header paint. The JB is supposed to be good to 2400 degrees.

 

[chuck hahn]

Didnt put the rear cowl on yet because im waiting on the pit replica seat cover to arrive. These were taken just before the maiden voyage. My buddy Jim was the student on this project and the rider in the videos i am gonna post in a few.

 

[chuck hahn]

Last tag sticker on the plate was 1999. First runs in about 19 years !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDNtK3BM0HE&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKIw-Yw9Io&feature=youtu.be

 

[rphillips]

Looking good on the bike, now just waiting for the comments on the photography to start.

 

[chuck hahn]

It is what it is with all those LED lights in the shop. No matter the angle one of them is gonna make glare.

 

[rphillips]

Sorry, the pictures are fine, I meant the videos.

 

[nvr2old]

Heck, I think if it were me, Chuck..I'd sandblast those pipes and paint em black. That would save you the hassle of finding replacements and would look good, too.

 

[Guest]

Got to agree with you 100% on this Tornado



I agree its fun working on old cycles, disagree that you should dump excess money into bikes that are not worth it. If this is a personal bike (which I am not sure Chuck has said or not) then you don't put garbage 40 year old technology on in the form of IRC tires. If it's to be a personal rider then buy quality tires of the modern era and ride it, if it's going in a museum then you can put those old style skins on or if you like to trailer to motorcycle shows or whatever.

And just so I say for the record, if this is going to be a personal bike that you keep for many years I don't care how much time you put into it or how many dollars you spend. On personal stuff do whatever you like and enjoy.

If this is for resale, like I suspect it is then Tornado is spot on period, end of story. Better off spending $2000 on a basket case Kawi triple and putting in the time then $200 on a old yammy 3 lunger that no one really wants.





First off a 400F is WORTH doing. Good on you for doing it! Secondly, and I know nvr you do excellent body work, I have a really, really hard to time considering this a restoration. Does not fit my definition. For gods sake there is black overspray on the forks! I consider this a cosmetic cleanup mainly, and a decent one but not professional level, sorry Chuck. And ZERO engine work or overall. I think a restoration also includes the powertrain but some may disagree.

Now for those still with it please follow along. Tips you can use here.
1. Don't get 40 hours into a project bike before you actually start it and see it will be a runner and that the gears shift smoothly, do this FIRST.
2. Don't take off the wheels, restore/repaint and then put back on the bike still with the old rubber, its kind of a time burner. Do these things in the proper steps
3. Don't overspray the forks, not sure why this was done. You had brakes off, wheel off you were damn near there. I guess I'm just saying think about the order things need to get done for a better project.

I'm glad somebody else around here has the common sense to understand the simple facts around what I was saying. I don't dislike Chuck at all, never met the guy, but we've had spirited conversations about bike "restorations" and "restifications" and other things old bike related over the years, and we are just of a completely different mindset. I won't spend a hundred hours restoring a bike that I can't make any money on, that to me is a no-brainer but if others think it's good, quality "therapeutic" time spent in the garage, so be it. I'm also pretty sure Chuck is not in a financial position to give money away, I have a six figure income and wouldn't even DREAM of doing a frame off restore on a bike I won't be able to give away when it's finished and I can actually AFFORD to, maybe Chuck has a rich uncle that we don't know about that's supporting his habit? I'd highly doubt that but anything is possible. It's not personal Chuck, it really isn't, but sometimes you need to look at what other people are saying and take it to heart. I've restored at least a 100 muscle bikes over the last 20 years and I've made good money on 99% of them, in fact, I built my entire dozen bike collection on profits from flipping "the right bikes". I bet if you went in that direction, you'd probably feel better about your end product and have more money to buy the next one, assuming it's not another 550 Vision or 650 Nighthawk. LOL! It's hard to argue with a guy though that just can't grasp reality. I remember having a month long argument one time with Chuck on the proposition that he can take a completely rusted out gas tank, weld, patch, plug, line it, paint it and when it's all said and done, HIS TANK is better than the NOS tank I just bought off of eBay for $500 dollars. There's nothing wrong with being frugal, and I know some tanks are impossible to find, but you are never going to convince me your "fixed" tank is better than the NOS one I paid up for, not in a million years. Make sure and let us know when this one is done Chuck, and make sure you let us know when it sells and how much you REALLY got for it. I want to see a receipt too.

 

[RichDesmond]

I'm glad somebody else around here has the common sense to understand the simple facts around what I was saying. I don't dislike Chuck at all, never met the guy, but we've had spirited conversations about bike "restorations" and "restifications" and other things old bike related over the years, and we are just of a completely different mindset. I won't spend a hundred hours restoring a bike that I can't make any money on, that to me is a no-brainer but if others think it's good, quality "therapeutic" time spent in the garage, so be it. I'm also pretty sure Chuck is not in a financial position to give money away, I have a six figure income and wouldn't even DREAM of doing a frame off restore on a bike I won't be able to give away when it's finished and I can actually AFFORD to, maybe Chuck has a rich uncle that we don't know about that's supporting his habit? I'd highly doubt that but anything is possible. It's not personal Chuck, it really isn't, but sometimes you need to look at what other people are saying and take it to heart. I've restored at least a 100 muscle bikes over the last 20 years and I've made good money on 99% of them, in fact, I built my entire dozen bike collection on profits from flipping "the right bikes". I bet if you went in that direction, you'd probably feel better about your end product and have more money to buy the next one, assuming it's not another 550 Vision or 650 Nighthawk. LOL! It's hard to argue with a guy though that just can't grasp reality. I remember having a month long argument one time with Chuck on the proposition that he can take a completely rusted out gas tank, weld, patch, plug, line it, paint it and when it's all said and done, HIS TANK is better than the NOS tank I just bought off of eBay for $500 dollars. There's nothing wrong with being frugal, and I know some tanks are impossible to find, but you are never going to convince me your "fixed" tank is better than the NOS one I paid up for, not in a million years. Make sure and let us know when this one is done Chuck, and make sure you let us know when it sells and how much you REALLY got for it. I want to see a receipt too.

Dear god man, give it a rest...