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Well, they sure LOOK nice. :-k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...m=180288510843&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...m=180288510843&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008
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i did some undercover work over at cb1100f.net and scored a set of the vipex shocks. i'm running a set of cb1100f shocks right now and love the extra ground clearance. i'm doing a wheel/swingarm swap over the winter so i'll probably install them then. they all mention the springs are too stiff. i'm a fatass so we'll see. i'll post something when i have an opinion but if anyone is interested, there's at least one other guy selling a set. i can pass along his contact info.
Those have been posted before... The guy in Taiwan knows the factory & says his friend had a set that broke in short order... A search should find his comments.
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Sorry guys, it's been a while since I been on here and don't blame you if you feel slightly deserted. I admit, I was a little angry about our one bad apple, but I'm back on the trail again. I have sent a proposal to both Ikon and Works Performance so we'll see what happens. I'll let you know when I know. I have not sent anything to Hagon yet as I want to see what I hear from Ikon and Works first. Keep your fingers crossed.
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TheCafeKid
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*crosses all fingers and toes*
Honestly Hagon has some nice stuff, but Works' piggybacks and variety look awesome. Hopefully, if you manage to swing a deal with them, its for one of their piggyback set ups, as they have two or three different models from what i could tell. Ikon, while i have heard good things about them, the tech seems kinda old school. I havent researched their entire product line however.
Now, would these be eye to eye or eye to clevis that you are going after??
Honestly Hagon has some nice stuff, but Works' piggybacks and variety look awesome. Hopefully, if you manage to swing a deal with them, its for one of their piggyback set ups, as they have two or three different models from what i could tell. Ikon, while i have heard good things about them, the tech seems kinda old school. I havent researched their entire product line however.
Now, would these be eye to eye or eye to clevis that you are going after??
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long_av8r
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I'm looking at the same setup as what the Ohlins were which is to say a clevis bottom mount. But, if I get Works on board with us we may have more flexibility with that. I agree that Ikon is kind of low tech, but I am hoping for them to be the low price leader while Works steps in where Ohlins left off. So, in other words, ideally I would be able to make a deal with both of them where Works would be comparable in price to Ohlins, and Ikon would be around half that or approximately $200.
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rudy
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Well, I'd still be in for something for the 1000. Do we need to remind people not to do something silly like call Works or Ikon and ask, "What's up with the group buy?"
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Colin Green
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Are there likely to be any that would fit a shaftie 1100G 83/84 model?
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long_av8r
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You would think we wouldn't have to do that, but then history has proven otherwise hasn't it?
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I had a set of works on my kat. Custom made 700.00. they came with eye/eye as I requested. They are threaded in and I just made a set of threaded clevis ends as well so I had both worlds covered.
Spent some time on the phone with techs... the wheel travel on mine were only 3.5". stock is 4.29". I have good things to say about the Works Techs.
Springs are very small hi-tech coils that save weight and still do the job. Though I am using a set of full race Ohlins now.
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I am definitely interested. Please add me to any list that is generated. I'll need something to match my USD gsxr front end.
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I got an email from Works, and they are game. We still have to work out a price yet. I'm going to try to get some of both the piggyback shocks as well as non piggyback shocks. I'll let you know what we come up with...
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TheCafeKid
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Excellent news!! Good show man! Im sure everyone interested is excited and thanks you tremendously for your legwork..Looking forward to this with great anticipation!
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These are the ones I bought http://www.worksperformance.com/html/street.html
Pro-Racers.. I didn't like the jetson's res on them so they replaced them with smooth ones. As you can see in the pic as well as gave me choice of spring colors.
Pro-Racers.. I didn't like the jetson's res on them so they replaced them with smooth ones. As you can see in the pic as well as gave me choice of spring colors.
Looking good
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long_av8r
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Well, here's the deal guys... I can't get the Ohlins prices I was getting out of Works. They will give me 10%, but to do any better I have to become a dealer. That means I have to get a Tax ID etc, etc. On top of that I have to either recieve and reship the goods, or have them drop ship the goods which incurrs another cost. In fact, either of those options incurrs a cost for me.
So, my options are to offer the deal at retail minus 10%, or become a dealer and get a bigger discount which would depend on the amount of like orders. A like order is considered to be 10 Pro Racers, or 10 Billet Trackers rather than 10 GS1000 shocks with some as Pro Racers, and some as Billet Trackers. The discount varies, but I would probably be able to get an average of 30% off retail if the orders are big enough.
But, here's the good news... Unlike Ohlins, Works is located not far from me, and they will build your shocks to order. If you want an eyelet on the bottom, they'll do it. If you want your shocks longer or shorter, just say so and it shall be done. Overall, I liked the conversation I had with thier rep and think that we can do business, but I need to see what kind of response I am going to get before I do all the paperwork to become a dealer. I'm not opposed to the idea, and if I do become a dealer, you will have somebody that is already in your corner that can do more for you than just cut deals. I think that delivery times will be greatly reduced, and that tech support will be better.
So, what should we do? Go with the 10%, or get the dealer license and go whole hog?
So, my options are to offer the deal at retail minus 10%, or become a dealer and get a bigger discount which would depend on the amount of like orders. A like order is considered to be 10 Pro Racers, or 10 Billet Trackers rather than 10 GS1000 shocks with some as Pro Racers, and some as Billet Trackers. The discount varies, but I would probably be able to get an average of 30% off retail if the orders are big enough.
But, here's the good news... Unlike Ohlins, Works is located not far from me, and they will build your shocks to order. If you want an eyelet on the bottom, they'll do it. If you want your shocks longer or shorter, just say so and it shall be done. Overall, I liked the conversation I had with thier rep and think that we can do business, but I need to see what kind of response I am going to get before I do all the paperwork to become a dealer. I'm not opposed to the idea, and if I do become a dealer, you will have somebody that is already in your corner that can do more for you than just cut deals. I think that delivery times will be greatly reduced, and that tech support will be better.
So, what should we do? Go with the 10%, or get the dealer license and go whole hog?
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Price dependent, I'm in. I'm kinda counting that this will be bike build budget for 1-2 months gone on shocks, unless I successfully sell something. :-k
I'm thinking dealership, but what kind of qty's are you thinking for that? I'm in no real rush for these, as I can run the originals until new ones come. They're not in bad shape, but I would like new ones.
What about the other brand? (the name eludes me at the moment) Any word on a deal from them?
I'm thinking dealership, but what kind of qty's are you thinking for that? I'm in no real rush for these, as I can run the originals until new ones come. They're not in bad shape, but I would like new ones.
What about the other brand? (the name eludes me at the moment) Any word on a deal from them?
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So far, no word back from Ikon.
As far as Works is concerned I'm looking at the low price leader being around $300 each based on an order of 10 or more, and the performance custom build shock like the Pro Racer coming in at around $650. I expect to sell more of the Tracker series shocks than the Pro Racer, but there are also other variants to sell between those two. But, keep in mind that I have to have a minimum of 10 per in order to get a significant enough discount or we might as well just go with the 10% offer. And, while $300 may sound like a lot for a basic shock, keep in mind that Works will continue to support it, the shock is rebuildable, and it will be available ordered to spec - in terms of spring and length. So, in that regard, you are buying a custom built basic shock made in the USA with support and a warranty. That is a much different scenario than what we see imported from China at half the price. It all comes back to the idea that you get what you pay for, and knowing what I know now, that Ohlins deals was almost too good to be true.
Having said that, I don't see being able to provide what I was with the Ohlins deal anymore no matter who I go with, and maybe that is why the sales staff go so ****ed when they got word of it. They really couldn't compete with the deals we were getting. In fact, I saw some of the very same shocks I sold sell on ebay for $750. I mean, if that was going to be the fair price set, then I should have bought them all up and ebayed them myself! So, when somebody called in to sales and told on us, it's no wonder they had a fit. If the dealers had got wind of it, they would have lost thier mind too. But, that's history and there's really nothing to be done about it anymore.
I think I'll start another thread later and see what kind of response I get. Another issue is that if I become a dealer, I'll need to sponsor the site in some way which, I would not have an issue with so I'll need to talk to the admin about it to make sure I'm not breaking any rules. Before it was just another member organizing a group buy, but if I become a dealer, then that might change things a bit.
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rudy
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I can deal with $300-400 no worries. Don't think I would use the full capabilities of the Pro Racer line. Rebuildable quality for a decent price is what I'm looking for. Thanks for taking the time and efforts to organize this. I've had much the same experiences with the gauge faces I've made, so I know some of the headaches.
