BUILDING AN I.C.B.M. KATANA 1100

[Guest]

Swanny,

Driver/builder error......

two major factors:
1) I didn't have a push/pull throttle installed just a pull. I knew the carbs were hanging up but "I could handle it"
2) my rear brake was not hooked up due to lazyness and having to re/re it a couple of times.

Ad a little freezing rain and you have the front end being pushed out very quickly. I grabbed the clutch as well but it was too late.

I had cracked the throttle on a very short stretch...(also dumb) aproaching a light. So it was a left turn, crack the throttle followed by a hard stop. the stop was much harder than expected.

I was a complete idiot, I admit it and deserve my plight completely. If I had made sure my throttle was correct and my rear brake was active...this wouldn't have happened.

The carbs had hung up a few times but it wasn't a probem till I had no rear brake.

When the front end washed out I hit the road in a nano-second..it was an instant with no time to react. Chock one up for stupidity..

 

[Anonymous]

Katman, when they go, they go fast.

Not having a rear brake and the throttles the way they were explains a lot. I've done some stupid thing also. You lived through this one - some don't.

 

[Guest]

I have been procrastinating on the throttles and since I was only going on very short test runs I thought I would get away with it....I didn't

my problem is I usually do.

 

[Nerobro]

I know EACTLY what it feels like to roll over and leave my shoulder behind. It's a scary feeling ;-) I turned the head of my humorus into a half a dozen slivers. :-(

 

[Guest]

I know EACTLY what it feels like to roll over and leave my shoulder behind. It's a scary feeling ;-) I turned the head of my humorus into a half a dozen slivers. :-(

NOthin funny about that.............

 

[Silvermachine81]

Man, That throttle jamming open musta felt freaky.
Glad I ran push/pull from day one :?

 

[Guest]

it's more like a hangup. it comes down but slower...though this time it kept giddeon up....

Never again without the push pull.... I got off lucky I figure.. could have hurt someone else in the process and that is unacceptable....

I am two blocks from the hwy and thought if it sticks there, which it had a few times...it is easy to control..lots of room. but I got caught with my pants down. Pride will get you in trouble every time.

 

[Anonymous]

return cables

return cables

Running smoothbores without a return cable is very risky buisiness and running flatslides without them borders on suicidal. Did you have trouble finding them, if so Barnett will supply you with cables. They are not expensive.

 

[Anonymous]

A good fix is to get the right bar control from a DR400S, the Dual sport model. (mine was from a 2000). It has the starter button and kill button not integrated into the throttle like the GS bikes. then add the push/pull from Mikuni and it looks factory. The DR also has a push/pull throttle that will work.

 

[Guest]

Thanks guys,

I was running an sv1000 push pull but it broke so I ran the stock just to sort out the carb problem. it took a lot longer than antisipated. the sv also has the seperate control so I think I will just buck up and order one from APE or PINGEL or somewhere......

Does the DR cables fit this??

 

[Anonymous]

They look the same. Check part numbers

 

[Guest]

what year and model DR do you recommend? I prefer this throttle to the standard gs p/p one.

thanks,

 

[Guest]

I was waiting for a set of p/p cables that a guy I know said he was sending me..another reason why I didn't go out and buy a set. Still no excuse on my part.

 

[Anonymous]

Glad to see you and the bike are not worse Rob. 8O
That's minimal damage for sure, glad they are going to operate on your shoulder so quick.

I have been gone the past 2 wks, and come back to the boards, and count 17 accidents.

wow

If you need something just holler, and I will check the garage.

Heal quick,
Ron

 

[Gerry]

When I was looking for a push pull throttle for my 38 smoothies I had used a set off a mystery bike that were the right length. When I put the 89 gsxr front end on I had to get longer cables, so I just made them. They didn't last!! The problem was finding a set with the right ratio. The newer bikes have a shorter distance to open the carbs and that is the last thing you want with the smoothies. I think it would be like running a 1/4 pull throttle. What I ended up using was (I think 78 or 79) gs 1000 throttle. The cables are a little long but work. Keep in mind my bike is not the beauty yours is and appearance is not a big thing for me. They seem to work but I will be watching to see what you end up with to see if it will work for me.

Good luck and heal well, Gerry

Edit to show the big spring that helps.

and the cables

 

[Anonymous]

You can use the SV starter button control and buy a Mikuni P/P complete throtle from Schnitz Racing. Here is the part number and price. 21417 Throttle with push & pull cables, no gribs $49.95

 

[Sandy]

When I was looking for a push pull throttle for my 38 smoothies I had used a set off a mystery bike that were the right length. When I put the 89 gsxr front end on I had to get longer cables, so I just made them. They didn't last!! The problem was finding a set with the right ratio. The newer bikes have a shorter distance to open the carbs and that is the last thing you want with the smoothies. I think it would be like running a 1/4 pull throttle. What I ended up using was (I think 78 or 79) gs 1000 throttle. The cables are a little long but work. Keep in mind my bike is not the beauty yours is and appearance is not a big thing for me. They seem to work but I will be watching to see what you end up with to see if it will work for me.

Good luck and heal well, Gerry

If the cables you are using are standard GS1000 78/79 cables the shorter "S" are still available from Suzuki Canada PN:58300-45601 and are about 4" shorter. Cost about $40.00CDN each but would probably fit much nicer.

 

[Gerry]

Sandy

If the cables you are using are standard GS1000 78/79 cables the shorter "S" are still available from Suzuki Canada PN:58300-45601 and are about 4" shorter. Cost about $40.00CDN each but would probably fit much nicer.

Hey, thanks, I'll check into it.

 

[ronin1166]

Hey Rob,
Sorry to read about your shunt. Shoulda known better than run the flatties without a return cable - they're a bit prone to vacuum sticking - but temptation (and impatience) is a powerful motivator, no doubt I'd prolly done the exact same thing.
I'm glad you and/or the Kat aren't pranged beyond reasonable repair.

I'm no stranger to shoulder problems (chronic recurrent dislocation on the left side, from a waterskiing biff many, many years ago)...makes sleep, ah, "problematic" sometimes.
Mine's been acting up recently, for no good reason at all. It sucks bad.
I feel your pain, bro' - trust me on that.

Sounds like you're making good progress against the 'barriers to healing' that socialized healthcare present.
Glad you have access and means to get the best orthopod possible, it makes a world of difference.
I hope your recovery goes smoothly, and without setback.

Ted

 

[Guest]

Hey Rob,
Shoulda known better than run the flatties without a return cable - they're a bit prone to vacuum sticking - but temptation (and impatience) is a powerful motivator, no doubt I'd prolly done the exact same thing.
Ted

Thanks Ted,

I started off with some but they broke twice.

What really chokes me I guess is I had sold a set of cables to a dude and he told me they didn't fit..too short for his riser bars so I sent him my other set with the understanding I would get get first set I sent back.

He told me they were in the mail so I didn't bother to get some more thinking they would show up any time ... but they never did.

I found the better they ran or the better tuned the carbs were the more they would hang up. when I first got them installed there was no sticking at all but as tuning got finer and finer they began to hang as performance got better.

I guess that last adjustment was a good one.

Was talking to a buddy today who knows a moto-crosser who broke his shoulder too and 4 months later he still can't raise his arm. He wasn't able to get surgery or didn't push hard enough I guess. I had to bypass 3 doctors and go directly to a specialist. I wasn't going to fart around.