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How the heck does that happen? Just wondering.
(Also - if the road is straight and the bike is perfectly upright, which side is the high side?
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How the heck does that happen? Just wondering.
(Also - if the road is straight and the bike is perfectly upright, which side is the high side?
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So in my off time I work on friends and neighbors bikes that have stood idle for a while and get them back on the road. Nothing too crazy.
Anyway, I finish my neighbors 1985 Maxim engine a few weeks ago that stood dormant for ten ( 10! ) years and the engine starts on maybe the 3rd or 4th hit of the button. Cool. Now I tell him what pads to order, brake fluid type and that new seals and maybe pistons will be on the list. And off he goes before we do the brakes....in shorts...Vans and no helmet.
Thankfully he gets the brake parts I had him order and we service the brakes last week. NOW he rides in the same attire with the cute girlfriend on the back. In a tank top.....flip flops......and no helmet.
Should this bother me so much? How do you guys that work on other peoples bikes reconcile this? Could I be held liable if something were to happen?
Really makes me reconsider working on other peoples rides.
* Full disclosure: I am an ATGATT a-hole. Hate squids and I am truly envious of Harley riders that obviously purchase the Screaming Eagle invisible crash protection barrier.
I agree in total with Steve's assessment. I will say though your not running a Walmart here, who you do work for or business with is your choice. A customer can vote with his feet and so can you. If you were is a motorcycle shop then no but a little after hours work in your garage, you certainly can choose who you want to do work for
The hardest lesson is learned by making your own mistakes - no amount of preaching will drive the knowledge into some heads.
Fwiw, I occasionally rode lid-less before helmets were compulsory, but 99% of the time I elected to wear one.
Even now, if I'm in the small town nearest me, I do the short hop (400yds) from the bank to the supermarket, lidless, at 20mph. No cops, no big deal - I go faster down that hill on my bicycle.
Fwiw, I occasionally rode lid-less before helmets were compulsory, but 99% of the time I elected to wear one.
Even now, if I'm in the small town nearest me, I do the short hop (400yds) from the bank to the supermarket, lidless, at 20mph. No cops, no big deal - I go faster down that hill on my bicycle.
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......... NOW he rides in the same attire with the cute girlfriend on the back. In a tank top.....flip flops......and no helmet. ........
We need pictures or it didn't happen....
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I work on a lot of bikes, and worries about the rider's lack of gear or skills sometimes cross my mind.
In the end, they're grown-ups and responsible for their choices.
I've refused to work on bikes or otherwise have any role in enabling riding for family members who are under 18 and known to be complete idiots when in the presence of any sort of throttle and too cool and immortal for any gear whatsoever. I've also refused to participate in work that would make a bike less safe, or to perform other work without addressing serious safety problems first (I'm not going to help with that pipe or anything else until you get new tires).
As far as encouraging gear use, the sort of person who would ride sans gear has already proven themselves well beyond the reach of sanity or logic. People with this mindset will only cling to their position more strongly if you confront their idiocy directly.
All you can really do is lead by example and answer questions if asked. I have noticed some folks quietly improve their gear usage when it becomes apparent that they can't ride nearly as far or in comfort without gear.
However, I usually take strong steps to avoid riding with ungeared riders since I really dislike the sight of unused brain matter.
In the end, they're grown-ups and responsible for their choices.
I've refused to work on bikes or otherwise have any role in enabling riding for family members who are under 18 and known to be complete idiots when in the presence of any sort of throttle and too cool and immortal for any gear whatsoever. I've also refused to participate in work that would make a bike less safe, or to perform other work without addressing serious safety problems first (I'm not going to help with that pipe or anything else until you get new tires).
As far as encouraging gear use, the sort of person who would ride sans gear has already proven themselves well beyond the reach of sanity or logic. People with this mindset will only cling to their position more strongly if you confront their idiocy directly.
All you can really do is lead by example and answer questions if asked. I have noticed some folks quietly improve their gear usage when it becomes apparent that they can't ride nearly as far or in comfort without gear.
However, I usually take strong steps to avoid riding with ungeared riders since I really dislike the sight of unused brain matter.
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I agree - my boots are never uncomfortable - IN fact I own a few pairs that I like to wear alternately when I can...When on a long (multiple day) ride I always wear my waterproof First Gear boots... But I do own some less water resistant boots I wear locally as well
Feet always belong on the pegs (up) whenever moving...I know a guy who lowered his feet prematurely when coming into a gas stop and basically ran himself over when his foot caught under the passenger peg --- did serious ligament damage and he had to undergo surgery -- please be careful.
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I just bought a Tourmaster 3.0 air intake HiVis green armored riding jacket and it is FANTASTIC. Especially in the hot desert. Got it from Motorcycle Super Store, had a great price on it for $179, free shipping.
Back to the rest of the thread. I rarely work on anyones bike any more with the exception of GSXR7ED (he is a believer in ATGATT), we had a great time working and riding together. Other then that, when someone asks me if I could work on their bike, I price myself out of their range lol or just refuse too and give them the name of someone that will.
As for ATGATT, geez, had several come up and ask what they should do for riding gear. I give then the spiel and they say great and thank me. Next time I see them they have totally ignored any advice I gave them. So I rarely do that now as well.
The group I ride with tend to do pretty good on the gear and usually have no problem with any of them, there are those exceptions and of course we have a couple of those. I just tell them have good insurance and I hope you have a high tolerance to pain once they start cleaning out the gravel and crap with the road rash. Cue to strap on the gear, start bike and leave.
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Thanks for the opinions and insight fellas.
Do they have public nudity laws in Brooksville and do you have a tank bra with a special parking place for Mr Happy?
I'm usually moving too fast for anyone to tell how I'm dressed. LOL
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The chaps I understand though no gloves? Anyways, glad you weren't tore up any worse then you were. Hitting a deer is some serious stuff (should see the size of our mule deer out here and not to mention the elk, real big ouch to hit one of them). Yer probably finding new bruises as you read this, I know I was when I had my first accident. Heal up quick okay. How badly was the bike damaged? Just FYI, I just bought a pair of those Duluth firehose pants, the duroflex ones I believe. Gonna see how they are for riding pants. I don't really care for my chaps. Read an article some tour riding guru wrote, when it came to riding gear he was totally against using chaps period. He said in the article "chaps belong on cowboys not on bike riders, get yourself a decent pair of riding pants etc etc". I figured if you don't have anything else but chaps, it would be better then just plain ole jeans.
I saw an interesting reversal today. 3 bikes riding, a Harley and 2 sportbikes, with the sportbikes riding 2 up. The pirate had full gear and a full face helmet, while the sportbike guys had t shirts and their female passengers donned tank tops....
As I was sliding down the blacktop Friday afternoon having just cut a deer in half, My 1st thought was how glad I was to have my helmet on, as I could feel it slap the road with every single roll of my body. My second thought was I had worn my leather jacket. During the aftermath, taking inventory, I wished I'd had my son's leather chaps, and gloves would have helped. I can only shudder at the thought of this if I had been doing the T-shirt thing. I am really beat up, but in one piece, and I'm an old man.
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Pretty obvious the pirate has ate the road a time or two and smarted up or was just smart to begin with. The squids not.
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A coworker always rode with a full face helmet back when he had a sportbike. Now that he has a cruiser he wears a half helmet and told me I had to make the switch too since I have a cruiser. I laughed at him and told him I don't give a $hit if people think I look cool or not, I like my face and plan on keeping it for a long time. I laughed later on when we did a short 90MPH burst and his half helmet was acting like a parachute and trying to pull his head off. I had no troubles from my full face...
