GS750ES 1986 Fixer

[GS'ER]

Hello all,
This is my first post to this form so be gentle. I purchased this bike a year ago and it has its problems but i have been working through it. The bike Runs (when its running) great but when it doesn't want to go it won't . I'm Planning on doing a full rebuild of the bike when I get my own place (currently going to school/working). I just cleaned the carbs for a new season and I decided to post some pictures of the bike when it was bare. I am hoping to clean it up to it's former GS Glory.

Now I have an issue when i look for parts for this bike it doesn't exist on the parts sites. So I have phoned up Suzuki to ask about the parts. do any of you know why this bike is hard to get parts for?

Anyways any help is greatly appreciated and when I get the fairings back on her I'll take some more pics for you guys

 

[spyug]

Welcome. I have one of those and there are many others on the site. To my knowledge, parts are not scarce and most are still available through Suzuki or guys like our friends at Z1 Enterprises or Bikebandit etc. I can get most anything through my own pro wrench and his small repair facility. There is definitely a fische on it on Bikebandit's site but its likely showing as 83 or 84 (they are all the same up to your bike). What parts are you after?

If you want to follow a great write up on a total frame off rebuild of one have a look at that of our friend Gatekeeper. He, among several other, is doing an amazing job of bringing his back to life.

You will soon get Cliff's mega welcome with all the information you will ever need and directions to his wonderful site of GS knowledge (manuals, tips, tricks and tutorials).

As mentioned, many guys have these bikes and some have spares so if you are looking for something post your requests and someones likely to have it.

Post you location details as well since there could be members near to you that can help if you need it.

Good luck with it and let us know how it goes.

Cheers,
Spyug

I should mention that if you are having problems getting it started you might want to check the valve adjustment as tight valves make it horrible to get going. Carbs seem to be difficult for folks to get really clean too so you really must strip them and dip them in carb cleaner and use new o-rings when reassembling. If your contacts in the wiring harness are corroded you could be having weak spark from the coils again resulting in hard starting. Clean up every connector you can see (including in the right handlebar control). It is also a very good idea to do the "coil relay" mod which will insure yor coils get full battery voltage. It goes without saying, that you need a good battery in the circuit but it looks like you may have a new one. If the charging system is not working well, you battery might not be getting a full carge and that too can cause problems. The regulator / rectifiers in these bike is poor and will likely cause you problems so have a look at the Stator Papers to check things and you may want to think about changing it out for something more robust. Mr. Martchless has compiled a master list of all compatable R/Rs and Shindengens from Hondas are favoured. Lots to do but once you sort through all that she will start run and charge like a top.

 

[SVSooke]

Where in Canada are you?Assuming of course you are in North America.I know of an 86 up Island in Crofton.You per chance?Great bikes,love the 85(Old Yeller) I did so much I'm now doing a 78 Skunk.Invite you to join the Owners Group(see sig).Looking forward to watching your build.

 

[jwhelan65]

Watching with interest...

 

[spyug]

Invite you to join the Owners Group(see sig).

How come I never got an invite? 'M I the wrong colour? My bike not pretty enough? I'm not cool like the other kids? I smell and my mother dresses me funny?

Sheesh, a guy could get an inferiority complex in this dump

Maybe I'll start my own group the "750 E Owners Who Got Shunned Group" That's kinda got a ring to it. We can all get fancy tats and colours and be the Bad Boys of the GSR.................cool

On second thoughts I'll just get a new bunch of playmates maybe on the Bird Watching forum, that'll show you nasty boys.

I'm taking my toys and going home now nah nah na nahna!

Cheers all,
Spyug

PS The newbs are going to think we are all bonkers and of course they are right!

 

[SVSooke]

Do you have a 83-86 GS750/700? You are invited.Been in my sig for a year.You will be waiting a lonnnnngg time for a hand engraved monogrammed invite.This is a close as it gets

 

[spyug]

Well OK then. I accept. When do I learn the special handshake and get to wear the robes and headdress? I always liked the bearskin with horns that Fred and Barnie wore down at the Water Buffalo Lodge. But I guess you need an old Zuk WB before you get one of those.

Jeez now I feel like a real somebody. I'm speshul (doing a pirouette in my tutu).

Thank you o grand PooBaa!

Spyug

 

[GS'ER]

Thanks spyug for the info, the parts that I'm specifically looking for are the fork seals (as one side of mine are gone) and the lower front fairing (the ones that sit beside the engine). I have actually bought a parts for this bike before the crank case was cracked. But i noticed from the fische that the 83 has anti dive and not the adjustable ones that I got.

To SVSooke :I live up in the Comox valley but go back and forth to Victoria for school. I bought the bike off of a guy in Cowichan that does allot of goldwing work. It runs ok but I want to make it run like a dream. hopefully ill see you around .

This is a picture of the bike off of a magazine scan.

It Looks pretty

Got it running today a new battery helped a lot. will keep you guys posted on whats going on.

 

[spyug]

Fork seals should be dead easily sourced through Suzuki dealers or anyone buying through Parts Canada so just about any bike shop I'm sure Greg can point you to one. They will be the same for 550s and 750s and likely 850/1100s as well unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't matter about anti-dive or no. Have a look at the Bike Bandit fisches.

As far as the chin fairings I agree they may no longer be factory available but someone here may have them. Put out a wanted ad.. I'll look around too.

Its going to be sweet when done .

Good luck and enjoy.

Cheers,
Spyug

 

[SVSooke]

Comox area I'm not sure about who's up there.In victoria I know who's who.Doing more on line these days.I'm pretty sure the bike I'm thinking of had the lowerr bits to the fairing.Would not have thought there would be 2 86s on the Island.The 85 build thread is in the sig to.

 

[jwhelan65]

Check Z1 Enterprises for new parts on line. If you are looking for parts let me know I have tons of 700E and ES parts which is basically the same bike you have.

 

[GS'ER]

SVSooke asked me to post some pics of the fairings so here they are the decals are a little bit faded and the tank has some paint missing but for how old they are they look in good condition.

I will post more as things come up

 

[GS'ER]

Good news I got me a set of chin fairings should be arriving in a month only about 40$ each also got those fork seals. the guy at the closest Suzuki dealer was a great help. Suzuki Canada had to sort through some old fiches to find the parts. which is kind of ridiculous seeing as the 1983 GS750ES is on the internet and the 86 doesn't exist. Oh well Ill take some pics when the stuff arrives and when i take apart my seals. I have a little project this weekend the front windscreen needs a little tlc any tips. It needs some clearing up and I would rather not spend 400$ on a new one (ridiculous).

thanks guys

 

[SVSooke]

Had a painted screen for mine wanted to make it clear again so http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=162364 I asked.Still crazed but I like it better than the paint.Parts are the problem with bikes that are not exactly the same as they're US counterparts

 

[GS'ER]

Hi all

I did some work on the fairings this weekend some ABS Gluing. I used 1/4 inch abs sheet, some 1/8 inch for the weld rod which is white and a soldering iron as the welder. Took a little practice to get use to the flow of the plastic. It turned out pretty nice, got to do some sanding to clean up but it should be sweet. so the way I did these welds is cut the ABS to shape then spot weld them with the soldering iron with no extra material. then I made a "V' Groove and then filled it with the 1/8 inch ABS that was cut into thin strips. This is repeated on the other side then sand and voila a fixed fairing. here are some pics of the work I did today. These pictures are of the front fairing right side The mounting bracket for the chin fairings had broken off:

I also did a work on the rear fairing It had a couple cracks in it and missing a mounting plate.

Ill post some more stuff next week.

 

[jwhelan65]

Nice, I am assuming this can be sanded out?

 

[spyug]

A much easier method than welding is to make up an abs slurry. That is pieces of ABS plastic melted in acetone. Use a glass jar with lid pour in some acetone and ad pieces of plastic (smaller pieces like shavings, chips and such). Allow the plastic to dissolve and stir in to make a paste. Add more plastic to thicken up the paste to a consistancy of cold honey.

You can use it like glue or filler. It is smoother and easier to use than the welded plastic and easily sanded out. Its wonderful stuff for our body work. You can make replacement tabs and such by taking an impression of a good one in play-do (plasticene or modeler's putty) and using the slurry to cast a new piece from the mold.

In the jar with a tight lid it will saty liquid for quite awhile but when it eventually hardens, pour in some more acetone and let it re-dissolve. Works great.

Things are looking good so keep at it.

Cheers,
spyug

 

[SVSooke]

Not sure the fairing is ABS spyug.I know the lowers on mine are not abs.Had to plastic weld those up.

 

[GS'ER]

This can be sanded out pretty easily , that is what I am doing today. To spyug i got some of the acetone cement glue just in case but i didn't know you could make a goo that would work. maybe next time I do some fairing work I will try that method. All the fairings on this bike are ABS so both methods work I just waned to try my hand a plastic welding. Here is a pic of my back fairing that was sanded. hopefully next week the rest of the parts for my bike come in. What do you guys think about fork seal replacement? difficult or easy because I am thinking I might get the bike shop to do it . However I would like to know how to do it. any tips would be great.

 

[GS'ER]

Hello all,
I ended up getting the guys at the local shop to do my forks because I have no Idea to do suck a thing and My tubes where pitted so they needed fixing up. as you can see:

This also means that I have my other parts like my chin fairings here:

The only thing is they don't come painted just bare plastic so I am going to do some research on painting them and see what comes up. It would be absolutely wicked to paint the whole bike. but that would also mean getting new decals. still considering what to do. Any suggestions?

thanks guys I will keep you posted