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Hot Grips vs. Symtec Grip Heaters

Just ordered the Symtec ones you recommended, bwringer, through the dealer for the same price minus the $11 shipping. I'll use my existing grips, which I already took off for prep.
 
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Other than a few warmups in the barn, I haven't really tested out the newly installed heater grips. Today, I got out for a 15 mile ride in 30 degree weather. Although I could feel both grips warm up on hi and low, it wasn't like they got comfy hot. I was wearing a lighter, flexible, windproof mitten with a thinner leather palm. My fingers are much happier mainly because of the mittens, but I was a little disappointed in the heater's effect. Maybe I'll have to change out the foam coated handgrips that I kept on the bike?
 
Other than a few warmups in the barn, I haven't really tested out the newly installed heater grips. Today, I got out for a 15 mile ride in 30 degree weather. Although I could feel both grips warm up on hi and low, it wasn't like they got comfy hot. I was wearing a lighter, flexible, windproof mitten with a thinner leather palm. My fingers are much happier mainly because of the mittens, but I was a little disappointed in the heater's effect. Maybe I'll have to change out the foam coated handgrips that I kept on the bike?
Have you measured the voltage the heaters are getting? My Symtec heaters work much better now that I added a relay. They were getting under 10V before, which means they were putting out about half as much heat as they do at 13V. (P=V^2/R and all.)
 
In addition to double checking the voltage they're receiving, I'd definitely change out the foam grips. There's a reason why various types of foam are used for insulation and in coolers! Go with a rubber grip of some sort and you'll probably get better heat transfer to your hands.

Regards,
 
Any of the thinner "gel" style grips will give you much better heat transfer. And, of course, make sure you use a relay so you get full voltage.

Don't wire them to the headlight wire according to the instructions, and for the sake of all that's right and good, don't use those %$#@! stupid Scotch-Lok wire taps. Ever.

On the VX (Symtec grip heaters) I put on a set of ProGrip 761 grips each fall, and then in the late spring swap in a pair of the thick Sunline Touring grips I prefer ergonomically. However, heat output is about half with the thick grips.

On the GS (Hot Grips), I roll on a set of foam Grip Puppies for the summer.
 
Now, just so you don't think I'm dense, I wanted to see what effect the existing grips with foam coverings had on blocking the heat. Finding that answer, I carefully peeled the foam off with a razor to exposed the plain, clean, ribbed rubber grip underneath and will see what happens. I also used the horn circuit as suggested by some to feed the heaters. I did get a reading of 10.6v at the horn compared to 12.65v at the battery posts(key on - engine off) prior to doing this. But as mentioned this may not suffice in lieu of a dedicated relay circuit.
 
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