Iron Pony Helmet clearance

[earlfor]

https://www.ironpony.com/ipd/pi.asp...treet-Products/KitKey2/Vertice-Modular-Helmet

I posted this a few days ago for those that might want to save a couple bucks, or needed a helmet but just didn't have a lot of cash to throw around right now. When I first posted, I had not received it. It arrived this evening. On examination, the fit and finish is excellent as is the interior padding fit and layout. I normally wear a small, ordered a small and it fits perfectly.
(slightly on the snug side as it should be) The chin strap is a stepped ratchet type and the latch is made of metal with a small pull strap quick release. The chin bar opens and closes/latches very positively with a metal latch mechanism (The chin strap and chin bar are both easy to operate) The helmet comes with a clear outside face shield plus a dark smoke inside sun shield. The clear outershield locks down. The chin bar can be locked in the up position by a switch on the left side of the helmet. The sun shield visor is moved up or down by a small lever under the left side of the helmet. The helmet is through vented with six exhaust slots in the rear and ten intakes in the front and top. They can be set open or closed. There is an elastic air dam across the bottom of the chin bar which is there to reduce updraft wind noise into the helmet. The helmet fits snugly enough that to either put it on or take it off, I have to open the chin bar.
The liner is removable and washable. There is an indent tab and the face shield slides out of its holder quickly and easily for replacement or cleaning.

Considering how its made and the snug fit, I expect it will be quieter than my old HJC which cost 6 times more.
It is also significantly lighter than the HJC.

The sale price is $48 (original $170 I believe)

It isn't a $1500 custom helmet, but it is definitely worth the original price of $170 and certainly a steal and a good value at $48. I'm impressed with it and after my ride tomorrow, if I'm impressed by the silence and comfort, I will probably be ordering a couple more.
It's a shockingly nice helmet for that little bit of money. Oh yeah, one other thing that I consider a plus. No name stickers or advertising logo's on it other than the small DOT certification sticker on the back with Stealth Vertice on it.

 

[kerrfunk]

Thanks for posting. I was wondering.

 

[trevor]

https://www.ironpony.com/ipd/pi.asp...treet-Products/KitKey2/Vertice-Modular-Helmet

I posted this a few days ago for those that might want to save a couple bucks, or needed a helmet but just didn't have a lot of cash to throw around right now. When I first posted, I had not received it. It arrived this evening. On examination, the fit and finish is excellent as is the interior padding fit and layout. I normally wear a small, ordered a small and it fits perfectly.
(slightly on the snug side as it should be) The chin strap is a stepped ratchet type and the latch is made of metal with a small pull strap quick release. The chin bar opens and closes/latches very positively with a metal latch mechanism (The chin strap and chin bar are both easy to operate) The helmet comes with a clear outside face shield plus a dark smoke inside sun shield. The clear outershield locks down. The chin bar can be locked in the up position by a switch on the left side of the helmet. The sun shield visor is moved up or down by a small lever under the left side of the helmet. The helmet is through vented with six exhaust slots in the rear and ten intakes in the front and top. They can be set open or closed. There is an elastic air dam across the bottom of the chin bar which is there to reduce updraft wind noise into the helmet. The helmet fits snugly enough that to either put it on or take it off, I have to open the chin bar.
The liner is removable and washable. There is an indent tab and the face shield slides out of its holder quickly and easily for replacement or cleaning.

Considering how its made and the snug fit, I expect it will be quieter than my old HJC which cost 6 times more.
It is also significantly lighter than the HJC.

The sale price is $48 (original $170 I believe)

It isn't a $1500 custom helmet, but it is definitely worth the original price of $170 and certainly a steal and a good value at $48. I'm impressed with it and after my ride tomorrow, if I'm impressed by the silence and comfort, I will probably be ordering a couple more.
It's a shockingly nice helmet for that little bit of money. Oh yeah, one other thing that I consider a plus. No name stickers or advertising logo's on it other than the small DOT certification sticker on the back with Stealth Vertice on it.

No snell??

 

[earlfor]

No snell??

No Snell. It is DOT and Euro spec certified. If it was Snell certified I would not consider buying it. DOT and Euro are the safer, preferred standard. The difference is that DOT and Euro are designed to crush somewhat on impact and spread impact forces over a longer period of time thus reducing the trauma to the skull. Snell standard is more rigid and although it will withstand a higher impact speed, the trade off is that is does not spread the impact forces over a longer period of time significantly which results in more injury. If you're Grand Prix road racer and expect to have a 200 mph crash, by all means go with the snell. But, if you're a street rider, your usage range is much slower than that and the better choice is DOT or Euro standards.

Edit:
Went for a 40 mile ride with the new helmet and found it is very noisy at anything above 35-40 mph. I think it would be ok for low speed in town runs or a short go'fer trip, but I wouldn't consider it as a all day, highway speed helmet. Also, I found the seating position on the Bandit is such that I can not turn my head more then 45 deg right or left because the lower portion of the helmet hits my shoulder.

 

[argonsagas]

Thanks, Earl.

I don't need one right now, but have been thinking of a new helmet as my Scorpion 900 is four years old.

I looked at this ad and then looked at shipping to Canada.....their minimum for shipping to Canada costs more than their selling price for the helmet!

 

[aclaytonb]

Had a vega for years. Almost as good as my schuberth s2. Flows air better and was literally 1/10th of the cost.

 

[earlfor]

Had a vega for years. Almost as good as my schuberth s2. Flows air better and was literally 1/10th of the cost.

How did you feel about the noise level. The modular is rather loud.

 

[aclaytonb]

Honestly, both helmets were loud enough on the highway that I still wore earplugs. I lived 50 minutes from post so I rode an hour at 60-100 mph every day during the summer. A quality helmet is a "little" quieter but nothing a 25c pair of foam earplugs can't fix. I'd say it was 10-15% quieter or so. It got even better when I found plugfones - earplug headphones.

I'd rather spend the extra $400 on something that keeps me riding. Thats four sets of Shinkos - delivered.

 

[Nessism]

Snell is an excellent standard. The best in my opinion. There was a point in the past where some people were bashing Snell saying the standard was geared towards racing but Snell took heed and evolved the standard to address many of those complaints. Snell has a chin bar test which I think many (or maybe most) modular helmets can't pass, and there is also some test that most (or maybe all) helmets with flip down visors can't meet. I wear a Scorpion with flip down visor so my helmet isn't Snell, but that in of itself doesn't bother me, and I don't condemn Snell for this either.

 

[earlfor]

Honestly, both helmets were loud enough on the highway that I still wore earplugs. I lived 50 minutes from post so I rode an hour at 60-100 mph every day during the summer. A quality helmet is a "little" quieter but nothing a 25c pair of foam earplugs can't fix. I'd say it was 10-15% quieter or so. It got even better when I found plugfones - earplug headphones.

I'd rather spend the extra $400 on something that keeps me riding. Thats four sets of Shinkos - delivered.

I'm with you on the tire money. heh

 

[earlfor]

Snell is an excellent standard. The best in my opinion. There was a point in the past where some people were bashing Snell saying the standard was geared towards racing but Snell took heed and evolved the standard to address many of those complaints. Snell has a chin bar test which I think many (or maybe most) modular helmets can't pass, and there is also some test that most (or maybe all) helmets with flip down visors can't meet. I wear a Scorpion with flip down visor so my helmet isn't Snell, but that in of itself doesn't bother me, and I don't condemn Snell for this either.

I didn't say Snell had a poor standard. I said I didn't approve of it because it doesn't apply as well as it should for my type of riding.
Dot and EU standards do.

 

[Guest]

I have always gone for a moderate helmet but this time I have the HJC RPHA 90 in my sights. It's a $450.00 Helmet but it meets all my wishes and requirements for a modular helmet.

 

[Nessism]

I didn't say Snell had a poor standard. I said I didn't approve of it because it doesn't apply as well as it should for my type of riding.
Dot and EU standards do.

That's not what you wrote above. You implied that Snell is an inferior standard compared to DOT and "Euro" (ECE).

DOT and Euro are the safer, preferred standard. The difference is that DOT and Euro are designed to crush somewhat on impact and spread impact forces over a longer period of time thus reducing the trauma to the skull. Snell standard is more rigid and although it will withstand a higher impact speed, the trade off is that is does not spread the impact forces over a longer period of time significantly which results in more injury. If you're Grand Prix road racer and expect to have a 200 mph crash, by all means go with the snell. But, if you're a street rider, your usage range is much slower than that and the better choice is DOT or Euro standards.

If anyone wants to learn how well DOT helmets compare to SNELL helmets here is some good reading...https://www.smf.org/docs/articles/impactVelStudy/MotorcycleHelmet_ImpactResponse_IRCOBI-15-91.pdf In a nutshell, SNELL is as good or better.

 

[aclaytonb]

No real life experience with 200mph crashes but the Vega will stop a 4" grasshopper when you take it in the noggin at 100+ mph. Never been down, so I use useful things like this to guage helmet purchase successfulness....

 

[earlfor]

That's not what you wrote above. You implied that Snell is an inferior standard compared to DOT and "Euro" (ECE).

I think you have a reading comprehension problem.

 

[Nessism]

I think you have a reading comprehension problem.

Your quote shown below. I'm not the one with the problem.

DOT and Euro are the safer, preferred standard.

 

[trevor]

If you wanna be cheap and buy a cheap helmet fine....but don't tell me it's better than a Snell rated helmet. That is just BS

 

[Guest]

Your quote shown below. I'm not the one with the problem.

Read his quote how you will, I get what he is saying........

 

[Guest]

in the angst of starting another helmet thread:....
[FONT=&quot]DOT ? An acronym for Department of Transport, DOT is the is US government approved standard and, in the United States, is the most popular. DOT standards are aimed at protecting skulls from 90% of impact types ( low to moderate energy impacts according to the HURT Report) and favours a more shock-absorbent helmet. The maximum G-force allowed by the DOT test is 250g?s, an impact of 200 to 250 g?s to the head would result in a severe, though probably survivable brain injury (the DOT anvil is either flat or ?kerb shaped? depending on the test). The DOT?s favouritism towards more shock-absorbent helmets seems to fall inline with recent studies indicating that absorbing the force of an impact is more important than resisting the impact.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Snell ? The Snell Memorial Foundation is a not-for-profit, independent organisation established in 1957 and is named after William ?Pete? Snell, a famous racing car driver who was tragically killed in 1956 when a helmet failed to protect his head during an accident. The Snell M2005 is the ?old standard? and favours a more shock-resistant helmet, the M2010 is the new, more shock-absorbent standard. The Snell M2005 test allows an impact-shock of up to 300g?s, a 250 to 300g impact would result in a critical head injury. The M2010 standard allows a maximum of 275g?s (the Snell anvil is a steel ball shaped rather like a tennis ball, they also test with flat and ?kerb? shaped anvils). The Snell M2005 standard is widely believed to be too ?hard?, the newer M2010 is set to replace it completely in 2013, the M2010 standard favours more impact-absorbent helmets and a helmet that passes the M2010 test will probably also pass the DOT and ECE R22-05 tests (though this isn?t guaranteed). Snell certified helmets are allowed by the AMA for professional motorcycle racing however the M2005 standard will no longer be permitted after 2011.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]ECE R22-05 ? Developed by the rather lengthily named United Nations Economic Commission for Europe, this is the most common helmet certification internationally, required by over 50 countries worldwide. It is approved for all competition events by AMA, WERA, FIM, CCS, Formula USA and the big one ? MotoGP. It, much like the DOT standard, favours a more impact-absorbent helmet allowing a maximum of 275g?s (the ECE R22-05 anvil is either flat or ?kerb shaped? depending on the test). The ECE R22-05 is arguably the most up-to-date helmet certification standard, it?s wide use in a variety of high-level motorcycle racing classes is reassuring to many. The ECE R22-05 has more in common with the DOT standard than either the Snell M2005 or M2010 standard, an ECE R22-05 certified helmet are likely to pass the DOT test and vice-versa.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Helmet certification standards are a highly controversial subject in motorcycle circles, everyone wants to believe their helmet?s certification standard is number 1 but at the end of the day it?s down to each rider to do their research, make their decision and the wear their helmet. Every time.[/FONT]

 

[Guest]

I'll stand by Earl on this one: " but at the end of the day it?s down to each rider to do their research, make their decision and the wear their helmet. Every time."