just nabbed a mint 99 marauder. stock pipes are WAY to quiet

[glib]

Have you watched this video?

Good video. Kind of a nice post-mod rumble actually.

 

[boredinmemind]

No..it makes me someone thats grown up and doesnt find the need for outside attention to validate myself. This may..or may not be you personally...but it seems to be the over riding desire for attention seekers.

Having grown up around the Harley crowds and a few outlaw biker clubs, i see theres a need for the weak to gather in crowds, be offendingly obnoxious, and then get pizzzzed off when they are confronted about it. In have had many try to recruit me to join the clubs and their ways but i decided i should grow up and be my own man that doesnt need validation from anyone but myself.

You breached the subject and are getting the cold hard blunt truth handed to you so deal with it Junior. cant take the flames then at the top under ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS you can find the option to delete this thread.

i agree on the stereo type actually. and it's hilarious how many wount even acknowledge you unless you also ride a harley. though i fail to see how, me enjoying a different or louder sound on my bike, means i seek others validation?
now that doesnt mean you wernt close, meaning i could be totally immature, just i dont seek others validation, i may act in such a way that i know will **** people off and i may enjoy it. AHEM.

also the cold blunt truth about what? your personal opinion? yeah pretty sure we established that if you dont want to help constructively and not deconstructively that it wasnt needed but, hey im not one of those people who tries to impose my opinion on people and if i wanted to use administrative tools i'd use it to maybe delete your posts? not like they are helpful anyways. well other then entertainment value that is.

also i know how to use google, do you? here ill help

http://bfy.tw/Cz1v

couldnt tell since you posted links that were basicly just a copy paste of googles results regardless of applicability or relevance to the topic.

 

[boredinmemind]

Have you watched this video?

i had not seen this one yet. thankyou for this!

 

[GS1150Pilot]

It actually improved the sound. Nice end result.

 

[boredinmemind]

It actually improved the sound. Nice end result.

yeah i think so too. i MAY try this tomorrow. looking for another stock exhaust to mess with atm. thankyou again for that video it was perfect, i kept finding ones on the different style exhaust, so this was perfect.

 

[Steve]

For those who might subscribe to the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" theory, I have a personal experience. :-k

I met a guy who rode a motorcycle and had that "loud pipes" mentality. I found out that he was also a paramedic, so I asked him:
"Bill, you drive a medic squad. It's a HUGE truck. It has lots of flashing lights. It has a siren. It has air horns. Does anyone ever pull out in front of you?"
"Oh, yeah, it happens all the time."
"Then please tell me exactly how a louder putt putt putt pointing to the BACK will keep people aware that you are coming up to them?"
"Uhhh, I think I see your point."

I was driving my van through downtown one day. It was a nice day, I had my windows open. I heard the loud rumble of a v-twin. Being a motorcyclist, I wanted to see what it was, but cound not find it. I looked all around, but could NOT find a motorcycle, let alone a loud v-twin. I almost hit someone that had stopped in front of me, because I was looking around for the bike. I finally found it. :encouragement: It was one block over, going the same direction. The sound was bouncing back and forth between all the tall buildings downtown, which means that the whole downtown area (maybe about one square mile?) was treated to all that noise, but only a select few actually got to see the source.

Just for the record, my GS does not have a stock exhaust on it. No, it's a 4-into-1 pipe of unknown origin, but it happens to be just about as quiet as stock, which I really appreciate. My longest single day on this bike has been about 450 miles, and I could not have gotten anywhere near that if the exhaust was as loud as some people think is necessary.

Good luck with your project. I hope you are far enough away from me that I won't have to be subjected to more noise. However, I will be kind enough to remind you that you will need to rejet the carbs for the open pipes, or the engine might overheat and seize. On the other hand, it will be quiet again. :-k :-\\\

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[glib]

For those who might subscribe to the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" theory, I have a personal experience. :-k

I met a guy who rode a motorcycle and had that "loud pipes" mentality. I found out that he was also a paramedic, so I asked him:
"Bill, you drive a medic squad. It's a HUGE truck. It has lots of flashing lights. It has a siren. It has air horns. Does anyone ever pull out in front of you?"
"Oh, yeah, it happens all the time."
"Then please tell me exactly how a louder putt putt putt pointing to the BACK will keep people aware that you are coming up to them?"
"Uhhh, I think I see your point."

I was driving my van through downtown one day. It was a nice day, I had my windows open. I heard the loud rumble of a v-twin. Being a motorcyclist, I wanted to see what it was, but cound not find it. I looked all around, but could NOT find a motorcycle, let alone a loud v-twin. I almost hit someone that had stopped in front of me, because I was looking around for the bike. I finally found it. :encouragement: It was one block over, going the same direction. The sound was bouncing back and forth between all the tall buildings downtown, which means that the whole downtown area (maybe about one square mile?) was treated to all that noise, but only a select few actually got to see the source.

Just for the record, my GS does not have a stock exhaust on it. No, it's a 4-into-1 pipe of unknown origin, but it happens to be just about as quiet as stock, which I really appreciate. My longest single day on this bike has been about 450 miles, and I could not have gotten anywhere near that if the exhaust was as loud as some people think is necessary.

Good luck with your project. I hope you are far enough away from me that I won't have to be subjected to more noise. However, I will be kind enough to remind you that you will need to rejet the carbs for the open pipes, or the engine might overheat and seize. On the other hand, it will be quiet again. :-k :-\\\

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Do you use earplugs when you ride?

 

[Guest]

Get some Cobra slip on's. They make different baffles that allow you to change the sound. Don't mind the old guys on here. My fathers '40 Chevy street rod has a sticker in the window that says, "If it's too loud you're to old". Now there is a difference between louder pipes and obnoxiously loud straight pipes, do what you want to do, it's your bike and I doubt anyone here will ever hear it in person. Your neighbors will let you know if you went too far.

 

[boredinmemind]

Get some Cobra slip on's. They make different baffles that allow you to change the sound. Don't mind the old guys on here. My fathers '40 Chevy street rod has a sticker in the window that says, "If it's too loud you're to old". Now there is a difference between louder pipes and obnoxiously loud straight pipes, do what you want to do, it's your bike and I doubt anyone here will ever hear it in person. Your neighbors will let you know if you went too far.

i was looking at those actually and they do look nice. also i agree there is a huge difference, which when read is how i started, i just want it a bit louder because it's literally so quiet in my helmet with the visor down that there are times im questioning it's rpm. so thats why i was asking about just the one small hole through the end of the baffle, which i would imagine not allow the engine to breath too much better if i keep stock intake and filter so that it would not warrent a rejet, but a plug chop will tell me that afterwords.

For those who might subscribe to the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" theory, I have a personal experience. :-k

I met a guy who rode a motorcycle and had that "loud pipes" mentality. I found out that he was also a paramedic, so I asked him:
"Bill, you drive a medic squad. It's a HUGE truck. It has lots of flashing lights. It has a siren. It has air horns. Does anyone ever pull out in front of you?"
"Oh, yeah, it happens all the time."
"Then please tell me exactly how a louder putt putt putt pointing to the BACK will keep people aware that you are coming up to them?"
"Uhhh, I think I see your point."

I was driving my van through downtown one day. It was a nice day, I had my windows open. I heard the loud rumble of a v-twin. Being a motorcyclist, I wanted to see what it was, but cound not find it. I looked all around, but could NOT find a motorcycle, let alone a loud v-twin. I almost hit someone that had stopped in front of me, because I was looking around for the bike. I finally found it. :encouragement: It was one block over, going the same direction. The sound was bouncing back and forth between all the tall buildings downtown, which means that the whole downtown area (maybe about one square mile?) was treated to all that noise, but only a select few actually got to see the source.

Just for the record, my GS does not have a stock exhaust on it. No, it's a 4-into-1 pipe of unknown origin, but it happens to be just about as quiet as stock, which I really appreciate. My longest single day on this bike has been about 450 miles, and I could not have gotten anywhere near that if the exhaust was as loud as some people think is necessary.

Good luck with your project. I hope you are far enough away from me that I won't have to be subjected to more noise. However, I will be kind enough to remind you that you will need to rejet the carbs for the open pipes, or the engine might overheat and seize. On the other hand, it will be quiet again. :-k :-\\\

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well i did say occasionally save lives. but like ive said, i dont want straight pipes, i dont want to be heard blocks away even. i just want it a couple db louder. but get told immediately, even with stating my reason, that it's a bad idea. and lets be honest the way some of the people on this and many forums come off is anti social to say the least. like passive aggressive comments sprinkled on top of sound advice .



just to state again,like i did to start. i was thinking about drilling 1 hole in the end of the baffle, or if possible swapping baffles if they removed. just so i could gain those FEW decibels so i can hear the bike better in my helmet with my visor down.
i am not trying to straight pipe it, not trying to annoy all of you old geezers with your sensitive ears, just be able to hear rpm above wind noise.

 

[JJ]

i just think that a cager should be able to hear my engine if i rev it. loud pipes occasionally save lives.

That is a silly myth

 

[boredinmemind]

That is a silly myth

great deduction work there sherlock. you must have gotten valedictorian with that level of intelligence. read the whole thread it's already been discussed. we are past this.

let me clairfy with an example like steve did.

For those who might subscribe to the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" theory, I have a personal experience. :-k

I met a guy who rode a motorcycle and had that "loud pipes" mentality. I found out that he was also a paramedic, so I asked him:
"Bill, you drive a medic squad. It's a HUGE truck. It has lots of flashing lights. It has a siren. It has air horns. Does anyone ever pull out in front of you?"
"Oh, yeah, it happens all the time."
"Then please tell me exactly how a louder putt putt putt pointing to the BACK will keep people aware that you are coming up to them?"
"Uhhh, I think I see your point."

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now you know what, im willing to bet LESS people pull out infront of him. if me being obnoxious too 100 people alerts 1 inattentive driver then it is worth it. (think it goes without saying even though all you old geezers imply that it doesnt, that my life is worth more then your not hearing a loud sound. even if it's only a .0000000001% that it will help me stay noticed)

also people seem to think sound travels at 80 mph or something. the speed of sound is around 760 mph, that sound will reflect and travel forward faster then you travel. otherwise you would literally only hear a siren behind the ambulance even with them having forward facing sirens. now is it AS loud in front of as in back of? no. but my other points make this one irrelevant.

so to clairfy again, loud pipes OCCASIONALLY save lives, the rest of the time they ether sound awesome or annoying based on your personal opinion. and you are all entitled to your own, just dont go posting nonconstructive criticism in this thread, go rant to your significant other or your dog, they atleast fake caring about what your talking about.


EDIT: also another point, let say i want to alert everyone? not just cagers? i have a family member who almost killed a kid because their bike was stock baffled and the kid ran into the road because he didnt hear them coming, luckily his passenger was quick thinking and pushed the child back so he didnt continue running out under the rear tire. so i'd love to hear one of you say it was good he had it quiet and your reasoning behind it in that instance.

 

[chuck hahn]

Take your azzz somewhere else if you cant handle being ridiculed.

 

[boredinmemind]

Take your azzz somewhere else if you cant handle being ridiculed.

i can handle it madam. why do you think i keep this going? i find this entertaining to russle your jimmy's

but WHOA watch out, chuck says i should leave. but why chuck? then i would not be blessed with your truly riveting insight!

 

[roeme]

Not going to waste time on another thread that degraded into loud-pipes-sh!tposting, so, summarily:

- A google search will help you more than enough to get heightened sound levels without being a complete ass to everyone around you, i.e. slip-ons and stuff.
- To achieve complete asshattery, no forums are needed at all, just a hacksaw and stuff
- db scale is logarithmic, each additional db roughly double as loud to the human ear. So 5db-10db would be quite significant and possibly reach a-hole level.

P.S. An interesting observation for those who are refraining from voicing their opinion in these threads; compare the tone, attitude and socioeconomic status (as far as it can be deducted or has been told) of the proponents, opponents and those searching for a middle ground.

P.P.S. I'm all for having some sweet exhaust sound, above stock levels, as long as it's within reason. Reason in most jurisdictions being law, thankfully. (which in my country, recently got nerfed down to 70ies stock level, because some idiots exploited a legal loophole and went way beyond acceptable. Once again, a few ruining it for everyone else).

 

[JTGS850GL]

and ok, lets say im doing it to be obnoxious, (kind of like you arguing with me when im just trying to find some information) who cares? is there a law against being obnoxious? making laws to protect peoples sensibilities or to not offend is ridiculous.

Actually, in some districts, there are ordinances against noise and specifically against loud exhausts.

With that said, you may find the best solution is to keep your stock pipes intact and find a set of aftermarket pipes. Most are a little louder than stock. That way you can sell your stock pipes and offset some of the cost of the new pipes. Just make sure you don't live near me.

 

[GS1150Pilot]

i can handle it madam. why do you think i keep this going? i find this entertaining to russle your jimmy's

but WHOA watch out, chuck says i should leave. but why chuck? then i would not be blessed with your truly riveting insight!

You do need to back it down several notches. You are offending the very people whose knowledge you need. You won't get any takers for the "loud pipes" slogan. It's never been supported by definitive data. You've clarified your wishes, been given some suggestions, and should now merge with the proverbial traffic.

 

[boredinmemind]

You do need to back it down several notches. You are offending the very people whose knowledge you need. You won't get any takers for the "loud pipes" slogan. It's never been supported by definitive data. You've clarified your wishes, been given some suggestions, and should now merge with the proverbial traffic.

ok your right to a point.

your wrong in the fact that,
i havent been offending the people whom have been reading the post, and giving a reasonable and polite response, because they arnt just coming on to a post to start some loud pipes war. (because all of you who said anything other then constructive criticism about why loud pipes might be bad. are really just trolling, otherwise what is the legitimate reason for posting negativity in the manner done? and if i havent made it clear, peoples thoughts of entitlement to no loud sounds DONT COUNT IN MY BOOK. especially since im not trying to break the law)

i dont expect any takers for a slogan, i expect people to see my logical reasoning for wanting my bike louder and not post their unhelpful, boarderline disrespectful comments in my thread seeking real knowledge.

so yes i will take the high road and not post anymore rederic about how im appearently a bad person for expecting common human decency.


p.s. i get your trying to make peace but when i see old geezers who are so stuck in their own ways so much that other peoples ways are immediately considered (even inlight of giving sound reasoning) unacceptable, and that they are unable of conceding a point themselves, it makes it harder to be the bigger man about it.

 

[GS1150Pilot]

Did you try the bafflectomy?

 

[robertbarr]

if i havent made it clear, peoples thoughts of entitlement to no loud sounds DONT COUNT IN MY BOOK.

i dont expect any takers for a slogan, i expect people to see my logical reasoning for wanting my bike louder and not post their unhelpful, boarderline disrespectful comments in my thread seeking real knowledge.

so yes i will take the high road and not post anymore rederic about how im appearently a bad person for expecting common human decency.

First of all, my post was not boarderline disrespectful. It was blunt. There's a difference.

So, in the same post, you state that you couldn't care less about anyone else wanting peace & quiet, but for some reason, you feel entitled to 'common decency'. This double standard is par for obnoxious losers with loud pipes; they feel they deserve every conceivable consideration, while offering none. There's nothing unique here.

It's not that anyone's out to get you; you're just experiencing the uniform civil reaction to a horse's ass.

 

[cowboyup3371]

Bored, have you even considered that those who aren't responding to this garbage of a thread are doing so because we really don't want to waste our proverbial breath on your ridiculous notion?