New sprockets and chain

[Guest]

Hi everyone,

Im back from Saudi and getting stuck into my first ever bike project.

Been looking through the boxes of bits and swopped a few messages with the previous owner and realise now that he had trashed the rear sprocket and chain so i think i will replace both sprockets and chain.

Could you guys please share the wisdom of the collective on this ... what should i be putting on my 1978 GS 550E here in the UK.

Huge thanks to you all for all the advice you guys gave me while i was in the desert waiting to get home and make a start on my bike.

 

[Guest]

Lots of options. DID X-ring is normally good. If you do a search, you'll probably find someone offering a chain and sprocket kit for a decent price. You don't need to go over the top - a GS 550 isn't massively powerful, and I guess you won't be doing a particularly high mileage. Whereabouts in the UK are you? There are still some decent 'bricks and mortar' dealers around.

 

[Rob S.]

Replace both sprockets and chain at the same time and you're in good shape.

If you want to save a few bucks (pounds?) I'm sure an O-ring would be sufficient. Just keep that sand out of the vicinity!

 

[Guest]

Have a look at Demon Tweeks site - I seem to recall getting a promotional e-mail from them with good prices.

 

[Guest]

Lots of options. DID X-ring is normally good. If you do a search, you'll probably find someone offering a chain and sprocket kit for a decent price. You don't need to go over the top - a GS 550 isn't massively powerful, and I guess you won't be doing a particularly high mileage. Whereabouts in the UK are you? There are still some decent 'bricks and mortar' dealers around.

Hi Steve,

I'm up in Shropshire, North Wales and only home for limited period so want to try and get as much done as i can and get the parts as quickly as i can without breaking the bank.

Appreciate the response and any and all guidance before i start hitting the card on eBay, MandP etc

 

[Guest]

Quick update and new questions...

Please see this link:

https://www.motorcycleproducts.co.uk/suzuki-gs550-1978-79-parts-c-4008_4159_4161.html?page=2

so which one do i need, i checked the haynes manual and it just breezes over it with no technical data. Is there a perfect combination here and would that change which chain i need (chain is on page 1 in that link).

This site seems to be quick and local so i could be putting the engine back together in a couple of days.

As some of you know i work in Saudi and only have limited time to work on my bike in the UK so grateful for any advice particularly quick advice !!

Thanks guys

 

[Guest]

Off the top of my head, 15 front 50 rear.

Have a look through here, it should have the answer: http://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac/~cliff/storage/gs/GS550_77-82_all.pdf

I would also order a 'drive sprocket retainer', item 33 on your link.

It's basically a washer, you fold one edge over one of the sprocket nut flats. Old ones are normally worn through use. It's just a bit of extra insurance against the sprocket nut loosening, which could potentially fall off the shaft, with unpleasant consequences.

 

[Guest]

Off the top of my head, 15 front 50 rear.

Have a look through here, it should have the answer: http://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac/~cliff/storage/gs/GS550_77-82_all.pdf

I would also order a 'drive sprocket retainer', item 33 on your link.

It's basically a washer, you fold one edge over one of the sprocket nut flats. Old ones are normally worn through use. It's just a bit of extra insurance against the sprocket nut loosening, which could potentially fall off the shaft, with unpleasant consequences.

You are a star Steve, thanks mate. I will have a look and definitely order the retainer too.

 

[Guest]

Off the top of my head, 15 front 50 rear..

looking through the service manual and haven't found it yet and on the websdite they don't do either 15 front or 50 rear. So grateful for your help steve, and trying not to be a pain in the rear; but, if you or anyone else has any advice or if i am just being dumb and missing this then please shout!

 

[Guest]

Off the top of my head, 15 front 50 rear.

Its ok, im an idiot, there are listed as the "Standard" ones!!!

Don't suppose you know if there is a special chain that goes with the 15/50 set?

 

[Guest]

Any of those on page 1 will do. I think I'd go with the ?50 Iris chain. The DID X-ring is better, but not sure it's ?30 better.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Steve,

Before i start a new thread i don't suppose you know where i can find info on the bolt sizes for engine mounting? The previous owner destroyed the front engine bolt and i can't find the bolts for the engine mounting brackets so i think i will try and replace the lot.

Any thoughts?

 

[Guest]

Have a look here:

https://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs550e-1978-c-usa-e03_model34243/partslist/#.Xl7ncGj7TIV It's a USA model fiche, but the basics are the same, just cosmetic differences.


The short bolts are in the section marked 'Frame', the long ones are in 'Crankcase'. Suzuki normally put the dimensions in the part number, so the short bolts on the front mounting plate are part no.01500-086003.
Ignore the first five digits for this - the next two give the thread size (M8), and the following two give the length (60mm). I believe the last digit relates to the finish, but I'm not 100% certain.

When you're buying fasteners, you also need to get the correct pitch (thread distance in millimetres). Japanese and UK standard sizes are the same up to M10. From there on, they normally use fine pitch fasteners, as opposed to our standard pitch.

 

[Guest]

Have a look here:

https://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs550e-1978-c-usa-e03_model34243/partslist/#.Xl7ncGj7TIV It's a USA model fiche, but the basics are the same, just cosmetic differences.


The short bolts are in the section marked 'Frame', the long ones are in 'Crankcase'. Suzuki normally put the dimensions in the part number, so the short bolts on the front mounting plate are part no.01500-086003.
Ignore the first five digits for this - the next two give the thread size (M8), and the following two give the length (60mm). I believe the last digit relates to the finish, but I'm not 100% certain.

When you're buying fasteners, you also need to get the correct pitch (thread distance in millimetres). Japanese and UK standard sizes are the same up to M10. From there on, they normally use fine pitch fasteners, as opposed to our standard pitch.

Thanks Steve i will check in the morning before going to buy the bolts in town

Rally appreciated your help tonight mate

 

[Guest]

Have a look here:

https://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs550e-1978-c-usa-e03_model34243/partslist/#.Xl7ncGj7TIV It's a USA model fiche, but the basics are the same, just cosmetic differences.

Morning mate,

had a good look at that site this morning, its excellent! Can't thank you enough. And really appreciate you explaining/decoding the part number for me.

More thank anything mate i am grateful for you taking the time to share your knowledge - that i can't repay.

 

[Guest]

Hi guys,

My new chain and front and rear sprockets arrived today.

Fitted front with any real issues but there was no rear sprocket on the bike so i had no "on -off" chance to learn. I have done a good search on the forum for instructions, on how to do this, been through the Haynes manual and (thanks Steve) been through the Service Manual as well. I have even watched the urban monk and "for the brave" on Youtube but neither really talk about it.

Can anyone please tell me how to chance the rear sprocket? It seems like i have to take the wheel apart?

Here are the screws i am talking about that once loose do not feel as though they have anything to screw back into...

377A8CC7-F6C1-43E6-A0EE-93C89E4E02FF by Mike Balmer, on Flickr

here is a close up of the square headed screws...

804DD030-2887-42C3-B1EC-5353D7EE76D7 by Mike Balmer, on Flickr

Not to be confused with the rear brake disc screws that are normal hex bolts and have something inside the hub to screw into...

AB0514E6-F6AE-45E9-A6AD-B93E410E3172 by Mike Balmer, on Flickr


Thanks guys (sorry if this sounds a little desperate, i'm running out of time on this holiday and head back to Saudi next Friday.

Grateful

 

[Guest]

The square-headed screws come from inside the hub. Lift the sprocket carrier off the hub, and you'l see where they should mount. You'll then need six nuts to apply from the outside, with the tab washer between the carrier and the nut. Flange nuts are ideal for this.

Just to recap, fit the sprocket to the carrier hub, then fit that assembly to the cush drive in the rear wheel.

 

[Guest]

Just to recap, fit the sprocket to the carrier hub, then fit that assembly to the cush drive in the rear wheel.

Thanks again Steve,

The bit i hadn't worked out was to hit the hub sprocket side with a nylon hammer to release it. I felt a right idiot when i came into the workshop this morning, having read your post and realised that if there was something technical to be done you would have said it. So nylon hammer and there it was.

Everywhere, i literally searched everywhere for info on that and nothing!

Thanks guys really appreciate you bearing with me as i learn.

 

[Guest]

Just thought i would show a picture of the chain on, its more progress so happy about that.

The chain arrived without the split ring link so the eagle-eyed among you will notice that i have not riveted the chain closed.

504E34DD-8FAC-44A8-8E9C-B14DBC474AA3 by Mike Balmer, on Flickr

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Nice bike!