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Old bike New owner... Hi!

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So I've owned my bike for an good 5 years. I got her in some boxes and did a total rebuild. Learned a lot about mechanics and the inner workings of motor bikes.
The only problem I had was a lack of drivers licence. Well that's a lie of course a life without problems is a boring one.
One of the other problems is a lack of funding due to me being a student. But all in all I got my bike together and to the point I could do some highly illegal test driving.
The beast lived and it was time to start with the licence.
After a view months I revised my work on the bike and came to the conclusion that I did a lot for someone who had no previous motorcycle knowledge.
But there were still some flaws I had to mend. Because when I poured the gearbox oil in, the next day it was laying in an nice puddle under the bike.
And the problem with this pre-unit is that you have to remove the engine to remove the gearbox.

So i decided that the BSA A7 project was to be put on the low burner because I came to the conclusion that it would take a while before she would be on the road in an reliable way.
The bike is from '55 so I want it to be as safe as possible.

You must be thinking that either I'm in the complete wrong forum, or just a bit loopy.

But no there is an use for this story...
Because at that time I realised that I wanted an bike that would be more reliable and still affordable. And hit the intwebs,
searching for a view days I found one that looked like it was new for the ridiculous price of 200 euro(200 and a bit in dollars;))
And having some experience in buying second hand cars all sorts of bells and whistles started to go of.
But on the other hand she looks really good. And my enthusiasm at this point was boiling over, so my first thought was lets call the owner!
But there was no number and who new how many people had mailed him?! horrible thought.
So I did some web CSI-ing and found his number and called immediately.
Yay first caller! he aparantly had gotten a few mails about the bike but hadn't had the time to answer them so he granted me first right of viewing!
Double yay!

I asked an neighbour who has an Honda 6 cylinder, some sort of ducati race monster and quite a lot of general motorstuff knowledge if he could company me. And he did.
We went to the guy selling the bike and it was the best buy I ever did.
Apparently it was his first bike, but as the years got on his age and caution grew and he bought a newer version of the bike with abs and so on.
But couldn't get himself to selling his baby. So after a year of not being used his wife wanted space in the garage for two electrical bicycles.
And the choice was made sort of for him I think.
He pulled the bike out of the garage with great care and showed all sorts of improvements and upgrades he made like steel brake lines and the sort.
No flashy gimmicks though just improvements. Also an specially made exaust muffler, but I'm not sure i like that because the more I read about performance here...

enniehoe he tried to start the bike with the warning that it hadn't run in over a year. Indeed after a few times trying the battery died, so I got some jumper cables from my vw t3 van(also awesome;))
and hooked it up to his car. It took some time but she started. Yay! My neighbour said that it sounded ok apart from the fact that is was running on 3 cillinders...
at which I reacted by staring stupidly at him as I recall now trying to figure out how the hell he could hear anything in that mess of roaring growls.
But after some encouragement the third cylinder started to do its job and apparently everything sounded quite well, and something was muttered about sowing machines.

The neighbour did a short test drive, as i was in the beginnings of getting my licence and was quite impressed by the bike.
He grumbled that this bike braked better than his 6 cylinder Honda.
At this time I was stoked! than I asked the seller about the low price. And he said that he tried to sell his wife's bike a few years back and couldn't get an reasonable price for it on-line,
so he went to a local vendor and let him sell it. It went for a decent price but after the percentage for the shop he only got 200,- .
And now he needed the bike gone because his new electrical bicycles were parked outside:)
He said that if I'm getting a low price for the bike I don't want the other party to pay more for it. So really decent guy.
Also when the sale was made under the promise that I have to take great care of her and at least put some new oil and a valve check before touring,
he came running after us with an clymer manual.
Like I said best buy ever!

So we brought her home and now she's mine! Did an oil change and put some carb-cleaning solution in the gas tank.
Checked the important things and concluded she would be safe to drive, but some work had to be done.
The tyres are a bit old but I'll change them in the coming time. Aah I probably should mention the type as some of you must be wondering by now...

So here we are...
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It's an '81 gs650gt (no motorcycles were harmed or mistreated in this picture)

Here is an more accurate and realistic representation of the GS:
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So that's about it I guess. I could tell you about me, but that's far less interesting.
If there are questions I'll gladly answer them.

best of warm feelings from The Netherlands

Pim. (that's my name;) )
 
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Welcome. That is a gorgeous bike. Careful with the jump starting. If the car supplying the power is running, its a quick way to kill the bikes charging system.

Good luck and enjoy.
 
Thanks mr. quick reader:)
I was wondering by the way does any body know if the paint scheme is original? Because it looks ridiculously good for an 30+ year old bike, but there are some parts that make me wonder if it's an superbly repaint...
 
Thanks:)

Careful with the jump starting. If the car supplying the power is running, its a quick way to kill the bikes charging system.
Good luck and enjoy.

How's that? does the generator in the gs produce less voltage than an car genarator? Or is there some sort of current protection in the electrical system on the bike? I'd say 14 volts is 14 volts...
Luckily the bike charges fine now:)
 
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Just hook up to a non running car and you will be fine.
Is the paint original it does look great
Odd transition from chrome head pipes to black chrome exhausts.
 
Just hook up to a non running car and you will be fine.
Is the paint original it does look great
Odd transition from chrome head pipes to black chrome exhausts.

First thing I did was put an new battery in.
Don't know if the paint is original, looks really good but there are some spots that make me wonder;)
Apparently painting the pipes was cheaper than chroming them... luckily there is some bluing to help the transition :D
 
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Holy cow, for 200EUR you practically stole it from him.

I had no idea there was a GS650GT. That's a really nice bike. Not sure how much of it is stock since I'm not as familiar with European GS offerings. Take good care of it and it will take care of you. See the link in my sig to BassCliff's mega-welcome, your starting point for everything you ever wanted to know about maintaining it. I would start with a complete carburetor teardown and deep cleaning. After that, check adjust the valves. Probably won't need much more than that.

Welcome!

Also, is that a spiral staircase in your front yard?
 
Welcome Pim. Fantastic looking 650gt. In my 6 years of owning one, I've never seen one pained in that color scheme. I would venture to say that the faring isn't original and the rear cowl has been altered. That is my US centric opinion. A beautiful bike and in my price range to boot! Welcome and always wear a helmet :smiley_simmons: All the beer (gear?) all the time!

cg
 
Thanks:)



How's that? does the generator in the gs produce less voltage than an car genarator? Or is there some sort of current protection in the electrical system on the bike? I'd say 14 volts is 14 volts...
Luckily the bike charges fine now:)

In theory you are right; in practice, I've had it cost me an alternator. I think that what may happen is that the bikes voltage regulator tries to regulate the car's alternator and dies trying. You end up with two alternators and two regulators who may get into a fatal argument if their voltages don't agree. I connected a [running] Ford to a Renault once and the Ford won.
 
I wouldn't have thought that the paint scheme was an original, but then while I was searching to see of the GT650 ever came with a fairing, I found this...

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from here LINK

Coiincidence? Either way, I like it.

Shame about the lines from the ​fairing to the tank.
 

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Well, how about that? Either it is the same bike, or things were shipped out to parts of Europe looking a little bit different than other parts of the continent. That is the first 650GT I've seen with a fairing. The tail piece looks like a blend between a regular G and an E.

Either way, it looks like a good score, for a good price.

Welcome to the GSR
 
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!

Awesome to see the same colours on an different bike!
According to the vehicle registration it hasn't been in Italy so pretty sure there are at least two of these!

Also, is that a spiral staircase in your front yard?

it's at a friends but yes, old military base now being converted to suburb;)

I connected a [running] Ford to a Renault once and the Ford won.

Aah the French are famous for their non failing electrical problems :D The neighbour that companied me while buying the bike had an Citroen picaso witch had "computer problems" according to the dealer, they swapped it and the problem remained. Aah the dealer said than it must be the other computer... so they swapped that one and still the problem persisted. the neighbour got a bit weary and asked me to have a look, and after some time with a multimeter decided that the tank float sensor had a bad connection.... fault found, problem solved... Hilarious to see the dealer immediately guessing French electronics at fault:D
 
What a great looking bike... Great color scheme. Welcome to the forum!
 
Update time!

Update time!

Hey guys and gals,

It's been a good long time ago that I posted on this forum.
But that's about to change! Becouse I finally got my drivers licence!!
I know I know; what took you so long, well let's say life happened.
But about half a year ago all I could see were people enjoying them self on motorbikes.
And not being able to drive the two that ik have in the garage felt quite stupid, so I finally got around to getting my licence.

I'm super happy that I finally did, and I'm slowly getting to know my 650gt. Which isn't the easiest of relationships.
But that's why I call it a hobby and hope that makes up for it.

In the weeks before I had my licence I cleaned the carbs, and replaced all the O-rings in the carbs and the 4 intake boot ones.
When i tried to wash the air filter it disintegrated in my hands and ordered a new one along with a clip for the intake filter cover(was missing :( )
So far so good.

Then I decided that It was a good idea to do all the maintenance that the manual mentioned because I don't know what was or wasn't done to the bike and more importantly when.
So I started with the valve adjustment and of course couldn't find any shims in my area... after a lot of searching and calling around I found an company in the south of the Netherlands that had them. Yeej!
It took me a good few tries to get good measurements because they kept changing on me. But after reading the manual again and again I read that the lobes should be in the upright position and not in line with the valve/shims.
so after lots and lots of remeasuring and checking the measurements of the shims I ordered the ones i needed and one week later fitted them in the bike.

Also I changed all the oils (except for the cardan hub which I still have to do.) And checked the brakes.

At this time I received my licence and of course wanted to ride!
So I geared up, rolled the bike out, checked for gas and hit the start button....

It turned over.....and over and over... no bang.
What the! this wasn't how I imagined my first ride on my own bike.
two car batteries later it finally started and seem to run well. A bit irregular at first but when it was running for a few minutes the sound was consistent and that was good in my eye's (ears) because I have no reference whatsoever.
So I drove around a bit and everything seemed well. after a few miles I stopped at a friend who wasn't home and the bike started right up again and I drove off. Some time later at another friend after some coffee same thing. light touch on the starter and started right up. Went to my dad's talked a bit maybe an hour, geared up hit the starter button..... and it turned over and over and over but no bang..;( I completely drained the battery but nothing. There I was all geared up... felt quite stupid. after 30 minutes I tried again and it started with a few tries but I got the impression that it held in while driving city speeds. not much, but it was driving slightly jerky.

So the next day I dove onto the forum and read trough the mega welcome again and decided that it would 'maybe' be a good idea to go trough the list to get my bike in good and reliable working order.
I bought new spark plugs, but haven changed them because the ones that are in are the textbook example of prefect colouration (as per my motorcycle enthusiast neighbour)
than I thought hmm I did clean the carbs and rembered that the idle fuel mixture screw were only open for about two turns or less. so I searched the forum and changed them to three turns open and whoa! Now it starts at the first push of the button! Cold or hot doesn't make any difference. The throttle stop screw had to be screwed back a bit and it idles much better now. I have to fine tune it still, but at least I can ride!

That brings me to my current discovery the bike is holding back while accelerating. Or rather, at constant speeds it seems to run fine. But when I accelerate I sometimes feel a boost and than it falls back to 'normal' and than an boost again. This feels almost binary.

In the beginning cylinder #1 wasn't firing at first but after a bit it went fine. With that in mind i'm thinking maybe i'm running on three cylinders normally and sometimes #1 does fire while accelerating? also The #2, #3 and #4 pipe bends are bluish in colour but the first isn't. But the bike doesn't smoke at all. I'll check the plugs after dinner. But haven't the faintest where I should start looking with this problem. Maybe I'll have to start checking electrical first.. dunno I'll keep you posted on my progress.
And helpful tips are of course always welcome!

And now for some eye candy!

bye!
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Man nice bike!!!
We really got the shaft (no pun intended) on not getting some really cool Suzuki bikes over here...

Welcome!
 
First I've seen of this thread... welcome!

Crazy pic of you on the bike--I haven't completely read your post as you have written alot. I'll give it my full attention when I'm off work.

Great color scheme...and sweet fairing. 200euro is a great price (remarkably lucky).

Keep the pics coming!


Ed
 
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