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Rear Piggyback Shocks

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firemun59 said:
just an interesting side note.....i was trying to provide the same info over at www.kzrider.com and my thread was locked and I can no longer log in.....oh well more time to focus on the GS pieces......very strange.....I do appreciate the encouraging words here and several other forum sites.
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Some sites are really strict about advertising and whatnot. Seems crazy to lock a thread like this, what classic bike owner doesn't want to upgrade his suspension?
 
I dont. Those KZrider guys are dumbasses. Theres only about 10 guys that take turns belittleing everybody like they are the Kawasaki design team.
I dont modify the Z1R cuz its worth too much and I dont modify the 550, just repair when needed and Ive got books for that.

I think this is the last year I'll have those two anyway. Theres a guy in Bellingham that is willing to overpay for the Z1R and the 550 has 67 thousand on it. My boy wont ride it anymore since its old and frumpy.
Kids. It still gets 65 mpg hwy and over 50 mpg at all times. Anybody out there want a 80' KZ 550A? with Cafe' fairing and luggage rack with lockable trunk...(He says as if Dangling a carrot). It does need cam chain guides but sweet other than that.

That reminds me, Im going to call that guy tonight about the Z1R
 
firemun59 said:
First off since you from the land of the 'colts' I have to say congrats. My son is a Peyton Manning fanatic. I will PM the details.

Anyway the issue of fork springs is of course an important concern. I have always replaced my seals everytime fork springs are swapped out.I know you all would, but i had to mention it . I am very fortunate to know an ex factory honda race team suspension technician and he has been part of our R&D process and recomends a non progressive set of fork springs as part of the front rear package. We are not in that part of the business as of yet. We cannot recomend a rate for the suzuki applications currently.....but we will.
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I just replaced my fork springs with progressives.I have an 83 650 L model shaftie with 12.5 inch eye to eye rear shocks. What type of effect would these have concerning the progressives and adding your piggybacks at 12 3/4".Another words whats the problem with matching them up with the progressive springs.Many GS'ers use these springs.
 
No boo's here either, I had an '83 1100F that ran a best of 10.19 at 128. (slick and bars, 29's and open header)
 
Are these shocks owner servicable?Can they be dissassembled and revalved?Recharged at local bike shop?Does the resevior have a piston or a diaphram?
 
dmay said:
Are these shocks owner servicable?Can they be dissassembled and revalved?Recharged at local bike shop?Does the resevior have a piston or a diaphram?
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They are rebuildable but it is recomended that it be done where they can be recharged. I am working towards a proprietary recharging set up. The internals in the reservoir utilize a piston.
 
I am interested as well. For several sets at the rate of purchases my household is making lately......
 
please send me a PM if you would like to be involved in some of the final sepecification details for the GS shock. To be involved you just need a micrometer and a computer - one of which you already have. I need a few guys to measure (with a micrometer) some parts of your GS so I can use the info as confirmation numbers.
 
micrometer, or calipers. I can get you half a thou accuracy with a set of dial calipers ;-) And with the rust and paint prevalant on suspention mounting points (which is what I'm assuming you're measuring)... Well measuring to half a tenth would be severe overkill, if not asking for problems.
 
firemun59 said:
please send me a PM if you would like to be involved in some of the final sepecification details for the GS shock. To be involved you just need a micrometer and a computer - one of which you already have. I need a few guys to measure (with a micrometer) some parts of your GS so I can use the info as confirmation numbers.
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Would a set of old OEM shocks be of any help ? There must be loads of them laying around this site. I can donate a set off the old 82EZ.
 
I have a digital caliper and I think this thing is a computer...

I have a digital caliper and I think this thing is a computer...

I'm definitely interested in two pairs of your high end shocks, one for my '82 Katana and one for my '82 GS1100E. It sounds like you are doing your homework. I hope that you put out a chrome set or nickel plated at least. Gold shocks look stupid in my opinion on a bike that is otherwise comprised of black and silver components. A little longer than stock would be great to enable more precise steering control. Let me know what measurements you need; my digital caliper goes up to 6 inches and also measures up to whatever the equivalent for that is in the metric world.

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firemun59 said:
just an interesting side note.....i was trying to provide the same info over at www.kzrider.com and my thread was locked and I can no longer log in.....oh well more time to focus on the GS pieces......very strange.....I do appreciate the encouraging words here and several other forum sites.
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Mike's right. They are very uptight over at KZR. The site used to be a great place to hang out, but it has been taken over by a few who dominate and they don't allow dissent.[-o< Neither do they allow people who know what they are talking about to contribute!:shock:

BTW, firemun, do you have a name? I notice you've not signed on any posts, and your website does not identify any of the players. I generally like to know who I'm sending my money to. Thanks, Henry.
 
GSWeergin said:
Mike's right. They are very uptight over at KZR. The site used to be a great place to hang out, but it has been taken over by a few who dominate and they don't allow dissent.[-o< Neither do they allow people who know what they are talking about to contribute!:shock:

BTW, firemun, do you have a name? I notice you've not signed on any posts, and your website does not identify any of the players. I generally like to know who I'm sending my money to. Thanks, Henry.
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i would be happy tp provide my name.....its Brian.

Just to be safe I wont post a last name....identity fraud and all that.....hope thats OK......if you want a last name its provided in all the warranty documents i forward to anyone with a new product shipped to you....along with a phone number and address (not a PO box)
 
Guyver said:
I'm definitely interested in two pairs of your high end shocks, one for my '82 Katana and one for my '82 GS1100E. It sounds like you are doing your homework. I hope that you put out a chrome set or nickel plated at least. Gold shocks look stupid in my opinion on a bike that is otherwise comprised of black and silver components. A little longer than stock would be great to enable more precise steering control. Let me know what measurements you need; my digital caliper goes up to 6 inches and also measures up to whatever the equivalent for that is in the metric world.

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Those are my 2 favorite Suzukis....I am not the best at the years but my best guess is an 82 GS1100E and the same year Kat.....gorgeous and feared on the street. I agree that gold would not compliment either one of your bikes.

If anyone would be willing to ship me an old OEM shock that would be great. I would of course pay for shipping and ship it back with two weeks and would NOT disassemble the shock.That is a great suggestion. I would not have been so bold to suggest it as I dont know any of you.....yet.
 
firemun59 said:
If anyone would be willing to ship me an old OEM shock that would be great. I would of course pay for shipping and ship it back with two weeks and would NOT disassemble the shock.That is a great suggestion. I would not have been so bold to suggest it as I dont know any of you.....yet.
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Brian,
I sent you an email. I have some stock 78 GS1000 shocks that you can have. They are old and useless to me.
 
Guyver, two of my favorite bikes too...even the color. I happen to have the exact same two bikes and in similar shape!
 
To go back to an earlier post what would the effect of running these with the progressive front springs be?
Why does your guy recommend non progressives?

Those springs are popular here. :)
 
The question about the fork springs is here...

firemun59 said:
Anyway the issue of fork springs is of course an important concern. I have always replaced my seals everytime fork springs are swapped out.I know you all would, but i had to mention it . I am very fortunate to know an ex factory honda race team suspension technician and he has been part of our R&D process and recomends a non progressive set of fork springs as part of the front rear package. We are not in that part of the business as of yet. We cannot recomend a rate for the suzuki applications currently.....but we will.
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