Shady eBay Seller

[GS ace]

I personally met this person who currently has a V65 Sabre listed. "Twowheelpeel" in Ohio has a motorcycle sales operation that should be avoided. His bio on eBay (complete with a photo of him holding a cute little dog) projects a good old boy who enjoys motorcycles and is involved only as a hobby. Wrong. He buys, sugar coats, and resells mechanically questionable machines. His angle is to project mechanical savvy and honesty from behind the internet curtain. I've seen his operation and picked his brain. Admittingly, I did step into a pile of phoniness and bought a GT750 from him a while back, then recently discovered a number of hidden mechanical issues that he "neglected" to disclose. His lengthy and beautiful write up in the listing, tied to what is real, reveals his business character. Frankly, Dennis lied to me on the phone prior to the purchase. In the listing, he stated that the tank had been coated. A lie. It had an old and botched Kreem job with rust in the tank. He stated that it could be ridden home, which in no way could have been managed. Another lie. I overlooked the tank as I POR15 my tanks anyway, and believed that the filter pods and tune were the cause of it not running right.

The bottom line is that he either doesn't know what he's doing or he has ill intent. I believe the latter.

 

[Sie Motorr?der]

He has 100% positive feedback on 756 transactions.
Its a bit odd that he would rate so high and be a crook.

 

[chuck hahn]

He can log on himself under another name and account and sit there and write his own feedback stories too!! I would believe a members word here way long beforei would that feed back crap..Thats why i always ask a lot or reputable people here a lot of questions...And if i get crap i say so and if they are for real i say so also..case in point, the new in he box 1100 tank i just bought. I replied in the thread they were all they said it was and the pics we posted Saturday bear that testimony out.

 

[Sie Motorr?der]

He can log on himself under another name and account and sit there and write his own feedback stories too!! I would believe a members word here way long beforei would that feed back crap..Thats why i always ask a lot or reputable people here a lot of questions...And if i get crap i say so and if they are for real i say so also..case in point, the new in he box 1100 tank i just bought. I replied in the thread they were all they said it was and the pics we posted Saturday bear that testimony out.

In order for feedback to be left a transaction has to occur.
The idea this guy would spend money on fake transactions to boost his ratings is unlikely.

0 bad ratings Chuck, 0!

I have never had any trouble with highly rated Ebay sellers.
I do not doubt that someone had trouble with a gt 750 purchase and wants to warn people off but it takes two to tango and all financial transactions should be caveat emptor and nothing else.

Does someone want to contact the seller and invite him on for a rebuttal?

 

[Ranger]

In order for feedback to be left a transaction has to occur.
The idea this guy would spend money on fake transactions to boost his ratings is unlikely.

0 bad ratings Chuck, 0!

I have never had any trouble with highly rated Ebay sellers.
I do not doubt that someone had trouble with a gt 750 purchase and wants to warn people off but it takes two to tango and all financial transactions should be caveat emptor and nothing else.

Does someone want to contact the seller and invite him on for a rebuttal?

JEEPRUSTY

 

[blowerbike]

JEEPRUSTY

 

[GS ace]

Old Fashioned?

Old Fashioned?

What is it, a business or a hobby?

The motorcycle's aesthetics are pretty darned good, but this is what was discovered: the exhaust port gaskets were to the point where a silicone sealant was used to prevent leakage, the center exhaust gaskets (pipe to muffler) were trash, the center exhaust was loaded with oil, the petcock was shot, and the points were nastily pitted. Most importantly, the water pump housing leaked profusely after I drained and refilled the cooling system. Did the seller have knowledge of any of this? You'd better damn well believe it, mein Herr. Should he have disclosed any of it? Ditto.

I guess that two fools met at the transaction, one who trusted eBay and a wannabe afficionado too much and a person who attempts to operate a business under the guise of a hobby. By direct observation of his surroundings, his employment status (zip), and his living arrangement, he came across as a person who never went beyond adolescence.

 

[hillsy]

What is it, a business or a hobby?

The motorcycle's aesthetics are pretty darned good, but this is what was discovered: the exhaust port gaskets were to the point where a silicone sealant was used to prevent leakage, the center exhaust gaskets (pipe to muffler) were trash, the center exhaust was loaded with oil, the petcock was shot, and the points were nastily pitted. Most importantly, the water pump housing leaked profusely after I drained and refilled the cooling system. Did the seller have knowledge of any of this? You'd better damn well believe it, mein Herr. Should he have disclosed any of it? Ditto.

I guess that two fools met at the transaction, one who trusted eBay and a wannabe afficionado too much and a person who attempts to operate a business under the guise of a hobby. By direct observation of his surroundings, his employment status (zip), and his living arrangement, he came across as a person who never went beyond adolescence.

So did you inspect the bike before you bought it or did you buy it sight unseen off eBay??

 

[GS ace]

Obscured by Shine

Obscured by Shine

Please note the location as well as the number of issues in relationship to accessibility. It was inspected in the usual fashion. Nothing was wrenched or yanked off of the machine. Would you be comfortable if a complete stranger started taking your bike apart before he decided to make the purchase?

 

[posplayr]

I invited the seller "Twowheelpeel" via an ebay message

Hi, we have a member at the GSR who seems disgruntled with his purchase from you. He apparently bought a GT750 which he admits :"The motorcycle's aesthetics are pretty darned good, but....."
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=171438
not sure if you are member here, but given your 100% positive feedback was wondering if you wanted to respond. Personally I think this is sour grapes about a 30 year old bike needing maintenace.
Jim Moore

 

[GS ace]

Sour Grapes?

Sour Grapes?

Nope. It's just administering some caveat to fellow GSRs in that there can easily be a rotten grape or two hidden inside the bunch. You can't get to them unless you pick the good ones off.

The issues are fixable (some have been taken care of already) and the only real expenditure is in time.

Have you ever had PERSONAL contact with this guy? I have, and am afforded the latitude to post what I believe. A true motorcycle "hobbyist" wouldn't have left such a footprint.

BTW JIm, let's not confuse repair to maintenance. If you wish to immerse yourself into this any further, ask him to produce the original posting.

 

[posplayr]

Nope. It's just administering some caveat to fellow GSRs in that there can easily be a rotten grape or two hidden inside the bunch. You can't get to them unless you pick the good ones off.

The issues are fixable (some have been taken care of already) and the only real expenditure is in time.

Have you ever had PERSONAL contact with this guy? I have, and am afforded the latitude to post what I believe. A true motorcycle "hobbyist" wouldn't have left such a footprint.

BTW JIm, let's not confuse repair to maintenance. If you wish to immerse yourself into this any further, ask him to produce the original posting.

True, I don't know anything about the circumstances other than your statements. I made my comment to the seller based on my own assessment of the limited and one sided facts mainly so he might not think he was being invited here to be attacked.

I'm trying to avoid being immersed in this issue as it is really between you and the seller. However, since you brought it to the forum, I thought it unfair to allow such a negative review to stand without letting the seller know especially when the seller has a perfect feedback score on Ebay going back some 7 years.

As far as the comments about "sour grapes", I have not read anything from your posts that would indicate anything wrong that would not be expected from a 30 year old bike unless it is one that had just been given a full restoration. I also have not read anything that says you had any correspondence with the seller after the sale to try and remedy any issues you might have had. I could delve further , but DO NOT want to immerse myself in your individual situation. Rather my only purpose is in the interest of maintaining the integrity of the "buyers review" by balancing the view of the issue (you brought here) by providing the seller and opportunity to respond.

Please don't assume, that seeking balance in this thread is necessarily taking sides; I just don't see enough "evidence" that there is a need to impugn the seller without any further assessment. Giving the seller an opprotunity might provide that balance and might even lead to a more pleasant outcome to your transation .

 

[GS ace]

Balance

Balance

Understood, Jim. I also understand with full grasp that due to the time frame involved, the outcome is solidly in place, and attempted resolution is pointless. That is not my intention. Exposing the seller's facade or revealing his unknowing inheritance of the problems would suffice.

Progression is taking place......with skills (absent in the other party), on the lift, and with my tools.

Let's see what he does.

 

[lurch12_2000]

First, I hesitate to offer my opinion but do so only because I do check this buyer review section occasionly and like to be able to differentiate between venting versus a legitimate bad review that other GS members should take note of in their own future dealings.
Did this transaction go through Ebay? I ask because you're in TX and the seller is in OH and I don't want to assume anything?
If it was Ebay, then post up his Ebay ad description and sale price of the GT750 that you're upset about and let others form their own opinion of the transaction. Most of us can determine a fair deal with some problems vs a bad deal where the seller clearly overstated and misled the buyer into overpaying.
It was already asked, but did you try to resolve with the seller first? I did not see anything negative in the last 12 months for twowheelpeel on his Ebay rating of items sold (I disregarded items he bought since he seems to make prompt payments and not the issue here). It really is ok to initiate a legitimate dispute in a timely fashion on Ebay, and at least give the seller an opportunity to deal with you before launching a scathing attack here.
I have no desire to jump into your dispute with the seller but this part of the forum should be different and more credible than maybe the OT section where it's mostly overstated attacks. Just trying to keep it credible to be worth reading. Don't take any of this as personal, just stating what I feel most of us are probably thinking.
BTW, I loathe Ebay, have made a few minor purchases and have never sold anything there. I've sold a few bikes on CL but always want the person to come in person to check my bike out and form his own first hand opinion before talking money. I have sold a couple bikes long distance on this forum along with some parts, but try to provide a bunch of pics and give straight answers to questions. So far so good, but if someone is not happy, I'd like to hear from them privately first to resolve if needed.
As always this is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth!

 

[GS ace]

eBay

eBay

I share the same feeiling about eBay. This was the only time I bought a motorcycle on the site. Go figure. I haven't purchased anything for a motorcycle for a long, long time. This is because I asked questions that were answered in a way that depicted an obvious lack of knowledge or questionable quality. There are too many people out there that don't have a clue. I'm old fashioned and think that on line auctions are too open for glitches and give sellers too much of an opportunity to get over on a buyer through intent or ignorance.

In reitteration, why would I attempt to resolve anything with this overgrown kid over two years after the transaction?

FYI, I drove from Kansas City to his parents' home (odd) in Millbury, OH and picked it up. Getting back to eBay, numbers, in relationship to feedback don't carry as much weight as most believe, particularly when most of the items sold in his case, are very simple .........unlike a vehicle.

I have sold many motorcycles and believe me, I knew EVERYTHING about each one before it was listed. My judgement, which I stand firm on and is driven by far above average experience, is in place until it is PROVEN otherwise. I'm waiting.

 

[posplayr]

What the Seller Said

What the Seller Said

He was a little snippy, but that is not unexpected

Dear posplayr,

I have only had one gt750 which was red a 1975,and I represented it well,and the buyer seemed happy,and never complained.I do not recall his name,but do remember he lived in Illinois.I don't belong to the gsr club,so he may be confused about who he bought it from.If it was me,then I really don't know why he would take the bike and then complain.The bike was a 9 out of 10,got lots of looks,and ran well.I guess you cannot please everyone.On that note,if you see anything that you don't like on my auction,then please do not bid and save us both the headache.Dennis


- twowheelpeel

 

[GS ace]

Say What?

Say What?

His response proves that he is full of it or cerebrally deficient. Proof: I got a title, so being confused about who I got it from is ludicrous. There are very, very few "9 of 10" machines like this out there. This isn't one of them.....for now. I know this as I actually do have bikes that are entered in shows (1st place) and am a collector and restorer. A fellow GSR member has visited my shop and has seen my bikes, so it's not a line. He may have convinced you on this, but not me. After all, who in the hell repairs a cracked vintage Hondaline fairing with with zip ties? "I got it from a guy I went to high school with who got it from someone else." Uh, right.

I took it down the street and back in the rain. IT DID NOT RUN WELL, as it had pod filters on it and it began running on one cylinder. I was only satisfied, not seemingly happy (as he claims) after driving 11 hours. That issue was easy to live with. It's the hidden BS (like his eBay bio) that was later discovered that gets my goat.

Thanks, Jim. Your assistance in reinforcing his place in the motorcycling world is appreciated. Since I do have his address, I just might fire off a note to him to realign his memory. I didn't live in Illinois.

 

[Ranger]

I've been lurking on this but, I think its getting personal. It went from a buyer beware to a competition of who is right and who is wrong.

Point taken is that: Be cautious when buying from this seller as past experiences with a GSR member has been less than satisfying.

To simply not buy from the guy because of a past experience is not going to justify current situations and/ or factors that people change and he may or may not have been contacted by previous interested buyers about his practices of selling.

Its a risk, as with all online auctions or listings. Sometimes you get screwed, its life. Personal experiences regarding sellers help eliminate some of the risk but ultimately it will be the individuals choice.

 

[posplayr]

His response proves that he is full of it or cerebrally deficient. Proof: I got a title, so being confused about who I got it from is ludicrous. There are very, very few "9 of 10" machines like this out there. This isn't one of them.....for now. I know this as I actually do have bikes that are entered in shows (1st place) and am a collector and restorer. A fellow GSR member has visited my shop and has seen my bikes, so it's not a line. He may have convinced you on this, but not me. After all, who in the hell repairs a cracked vintage Hondaline fairing with with zip ties? "I got it from a guy I went to high school with who got it from someone else." Uh, right.

I took it down the street and back in the rain. IT DID NOT RUN WELL, as it had pod filters on it and it began running on one cylinder. I was only satisfied, not seemingly happy (as he claims) after driving 11 hours. That issue was easy to live with. It's the hidden BS (like his eBay bio) that was later discovered that gets my goat.

Thanks, Jim. Your assistance in reinforcing his place in the motorcycling world is appreciated. Since I do have his address, I just might fire off a note to him to realign his memory. I didn't live in Illinois.

Well, it sounds like there are alot of other issues than just the ones you mentioned in the first couple of posts (at least from what I remember). When you drive 11 hours to pick up a bike, you really have to put your trust into the seller as I know it would have to be really bad for me to go 11 hours and then turn around empty handed . It sounds like seller was a little optimistic about the bike but not so bad to have you turn around from what you could see in the dark rainy nite.

What can I say, you live and you learn :-#

This is alot less money that your bike, but it still irks me none the less. I bought a set of wheel from a TOP SELLER at gixxer.com. He gave me a top price and would not budge. I told him I was willing to pay it if they were nice wheels commensurate with the high price I was paying. In other words since I was paying top dollar, they should be about the best wheels I would find. Turns out they were about the worst wheels I have bought yet and for the most money yet .

 

[GS ace]

Movin' On

Movin' On

You're right, Ranger. Lying in business is getting personal and we sometimes do get screwed by the Mr. Haneys out there.

I feel that I've exposed you guys to enough of this crap and will migrate into the mano y mano arena with this guy.