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Shaving pounds to add performance, ? on component weight

Brand new ebc shoes& well adjusted & it's still not too great even on a lighter gs550. My 77 gs750b on the other hand has too much rear brake!

I'm looking into a rotor adapter & custom caliper bracket to fit a slightly smaller modern rear rotor & lightweight brembo caliper that T8 is going to have made up.

Did you bed those EBC brake shoes in correctly? It takes a lot of heat to get it working right.

I'm curious what the whole thing will weigh when you are done with it compared to the 550's drum brake.
 
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I'm curious what the whole thing will weigh when you are done with it compared to the 550's drum brake.

Rotor will be approximately 2.75lbs lighter, & I'm guessing 1.9-2.25lbs less on the caliper& hanger bracket.
T8er could tell us better. The single disc front rotors weigh 4 lbs vs the twinpot mod cbr900rr rotors at 1lb each... wow.
 
EBC's website should have instructions and some info about the theory behind it, but basically go about 60 mph, drag the brake to get it hot and then do moderate braking down to maybe 30 mph a few times, maybe four or five. You will feel the braking start to increase after about the third time.
 
Rear Brake

Rear Brake

How about a slotted front brake rotor, right side, in the rear??? Works. Is lighter, slotted and thinner.
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fit a smaller gas tank, every liter of gas weighs 1.6lb. less gas = less weight

Little number transposing going on here.One gallon of gas is 6.1 lbs.Imperial gal. is 7.3 lbs. ...
OK, continue on with your math, if you want to correct somebody. :-k

There are 3.78541 liters per gallon.

Divide that into the 6.1 pounds per gallon, you will see that each liter weighs 1.61145 pounds. :p



Since we are getting more technical, let's also get precise.

That gallon of gas is actually 6.073 pounds. Divide that into liters, each liter weighs 1.60432 pounds. :-\\\



In other words, you are both correct, but you were thinking he was wrong. :oops:

.
 
How about a slotted front brake rotor, right side, in the rear??? Works. Is lighter, slotted and thinner.

At first when I read this I said no way, the fronts are tankers as well. I read another report of the front rotor weights, and apparently the 275 or 276mm dual rotors are the 4 lb rotors, the single disc 295/296mm that I am replacing is actually 5.2lbs! I'll be updating my weight stats again.


Although I am considering using the CAD drawings that a fellow member has made up to have a machinist make a rotor hub adapter and caliper adapter to use an 02 Yamaha rear rotor and Brembo caliper, I am still considering other options as the custom milling and CNC work will cost a small fortune. I did just stumble across this when looking for similar diameter rotors with the correct PCD and offset, wondering if they have the correct height of surface area for the old calipers, and if any newer GSX calipers will bolt to the old style GS brake bracket?:

Front Brake Disc for GSX 1100 F EF GS 1150 EF EF2 EG ES3 ESE ESG 83 86 88 93 97

Outside Diameter: 276mm Inside Diameter: 56mm
Bolt Hole Circumference: 78mm
Bolt Hole Qty: 6
Bolt Hole Size: 10.5mm
Thickness: 5mm
Offset: 21.5mm
Biding Discs will fit for:
SUZUKI GSX 1100 F FJ,FK,FL,FM,FN,FP 1988-1993
SUZUKI GSX 1100 F Katana FJ,FL,FM,FN,FR,FS 1988-1997
SUZUKI GS 1150 EF 1985
SUZUKI GS 1150 EF2 1985
SUZUKI GS 1150 EG 1986
SUZUKI GS 1150 ES3 1983
SUZUKI GS 1150 ESE 1984
SUZUKI GS 1150 ESF 1985
SUZUKI GS 1150 ESG 1986
SUZUKI GSX 1100 EF EFE,EFF,ESE 1984-1986


Round Front Brake Disc Rotor Suzuki GSX 1100 F 88-93 GS 1150 GSX 1100 EF 84-86


[FONT=宋体]GSX 1100 F[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]FJ,FK,FL,FM,FN,FP[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1988-1993[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]GSX 1100 F Katana[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]FJ,FL,FM,FN,FR,FS[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1988-1997[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]GS 1150 EF[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1985[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 EF2[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1985[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 EG[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1986[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ES3[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1983[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ESE[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1984[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ESF[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1985[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ESG[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1986[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GSX 1100 EF[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]EFE,EFF,ESE[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1984-1986[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GSX 1100 EF[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1986-[/FONT]


Model: 140N-B
Disc Outer Diameter: 275 mm
Disc Inside Diameter: 56 mm
Disc Thickness: 5 mm
Number of Holes: 6
Bolt hole Diameter: 10.4 mm
Boltpattern Diameter: 78 mm
Offset: 21.5 mm
 
OK, continue on with your math, if you want to correct somebody. :-k

There are 3.78541 liters per gallon.

Divide that into the 6.1 pounds per gallon, you will see that each liter weighs 1.61145 pounds. :p



Since we are getting more technical, let's also get precise.

That gallon of gas is actually 6.073 pounds. Divide that into liters, each liter weighs 1.60432 pounds. :-\\\



In other words, you are both correct, but you were thinking he was wrong. :oops:

.

Steve, before you carry the weight of gasoline out to three digits past the decimal you better have a temperature and an alcohol and water content.

The gasoline only adds weight if the tank is full. Leave it half empty is as good as having a smaller tank.
 
At first when I read this I said no way, the fronts are tankers as well. I read another report of the front rotor weights, and apparently the 275 or 276mm dual rotors are the 4 lb rotors, the single disc 295/296mm that I am replacing is actually 5.2lbs! I'll be updating my weight stats again.


Although I am considering using the CAD drawings that a fellow member has made up to have a machinist make a rotor hub adapter and caliper adapter to use an 02 Yamaha rear rotor and Brembo caliper, I am still considering other options as the custom milling and CNC work will cost a small fortune. I did just stumble across this when looking for similar diameter rotors with the correct PCD and offset, wondering if they have the correct height of surface area for the old calipers, and if any newer GSX calipers will bolt to the old style GS brake bracket?:

Front Brake Disc for GSX 1100 F EF GS 1150 EF EF2 EG ES3 ESE ESG 83 86 88 93 97

Outside Diameter: 276mm Inside Diameter: 56mm
Bolt Hole Circumference: 78mm
Bolt Hole Qty: 6
Bolt Hole Size: 10.5mm
Thickness: 5mm
Offset: 21.5mm
Biding Discs will fit for:
SUZUKI GSX 1100 F FJ,FK,FL,FM,FN,FP 1988-1993
SUZUKI GSX 1100 F Katana FJ,FL,FM,FN,FR,FS 1988-1997
SUZUKI GS 1150 EF 1985
SUZUKI GS 1150 EF2 1985
SUZUKI GS 1150 EG 1986
SUZUKI GS 1150 ES3 1983
SUZUKI GS 1150 ESE 1984
SUZUKI GS 1150 ESF 1985
SUZUKI GS 1150 ESG 1986
SUZUKI GSX 1100 EF EFE,EFF,ESE 1984-1986


Round Front Brake Disc Rotor Suzuki GSX 1100 F 88-93 GS 1150 GSX 1100 EF 84-86


[FONT=宋体]GSX 1100 F[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]FJ,FK,FL,FM,FN,FP[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1988-1993[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]GSX 1100 F Katana[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]FJ,FL,FM,FN,FR,FS[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1988-1997[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]GS 1150 EF[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1985[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 EF2[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1985[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 EG[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1986[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ES3[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1983[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ESE[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1984[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ESF[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1985[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GS 1150 ESG[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1986[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GSX 1100 EF[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]EFE,EFF,ESE[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]1984-1986[/FONT] [FONT=宋体]
GSX 1100 EF[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]1986-[/FONT]


Model: 140N-B
Disc Outer Diameter: 275 mm
Disc Inside Diameter: 56 mm
Disc Thickness: 5 mm
Number of Holes: 6
Bolt hole Diameter: 10.4 mm
Boltpattern Diameter: 78 mm
Offset: 21.5 mm
what other options are there to a round rotor?:confused:
 
what other options are there to a round rotor?:confused:


ACTUALLY...

Those silly@$% wave design rotors that are ugly as sin...yet all the rage with the modern streetfighter/sportbike crowd

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Darnit this off-season GS-Superbike-Retrofit/Rebuild internet research is addictive, I gotta get off the internet and get back to working on my massive house rehab project, or else I'll never get it done to the point where I can start modifying bolting on all these parts!!!!! Thanks for all the encouragement!
 
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Liters

Liters

OK, continue on with your math, if you want to correct somebody. :-k

There are 3.78541 liters per gallon.

Divide that into the 6.1 pounds per gallon, you will see that each liter weighs 1.61145 pounds. :p



Since we are getting more technical, let's also get precise.

That gallon of gas is actually 6.073 pounds. Divide that into liters, each liter weighs 1.60432 pounds. :-\\\



In other words, you are both correct, but you were thinking he was wrong. :oops:

.
Steve,really wasn't thinking about correcting someone,thinking they made a mistake.Just thought a little transposing had happened:confused:The old brain I have is slipping,what can I say.At least I learned today a liter of gas really weights 1.6 lbs.May need to know that someday,Happy New Years!
 
If you do a search, someone (I believe it was Posplayr) posted some info/pics about compatible wave rotors for the GS bikes, a couple years ago.
 
I was having second thoughts on 630 vs 530 vs 520 chains, I was thinking maybe a 520 chain might be a good idea (aside from shorter sprocket life on our heavy bikes especially with a hot rodded engine)
I'm wanting to keep my tire options open in case I decide to ditch the 5,000 mile super sticky tread on the awesome $77 140/70 (5.5" wide) Shinko SR741 in favor of a 10,000 mile tread $115 Avon AM26 RoadRider in a 150/70 (6" wide).

It may be nice to have it already set up with a 520 and maybe 1/8" spacers behind the sprockets in case I wanted to go for the 150 ever, and would certainly benefit weight savings. I have yet to price 520's that are equipped for a 480 lb bike with full tank and 150 lb rider, and being propelled by a hot rodded 920cc GS engine with mega-traction in the rear... $$$$$????
 
Holding a hefty stock GS cast steel footpeg in my hand (guessing 3 lbs/pair, looking at fleabay at really nice 99-07 Hayabusa rearsets for $30 per side... I bet they will weigh half as much installed, plus I can actually shave down a lot of the bulk off of the frame in that area down to just the cradle tube, and weld on a flat plate for each mounting bolt, or maybe a a threaded sleeve welded to the frame cradle tube (much stiffer!). I'm gonna say 3 lbs weight savings in addition to chopping the entire rear passenger footpeg frame assemblies off, about 7.5+ lbs total I am guessing? I would be chopping the extra top parts off of the 'busa rearset mounting place, not sure of mounting the brake master cyl to the frame or the rearset. Hmmm?

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there are a few members here, including me that have fitted GSXR complete footrests. yes they are a lot lighter and work really well. i cut off all existing mounts and welded on new plates to fit mine whereas some have made up mounting brackets that use original mounts.
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Adrian, are you able to send us some closer pics of the GSXR rearsets and mounts, that is exactly what I am looking for my GS1000E, much appreciated
 
Adrian, are you able to send us some closer pics of the GSXR rearsets and mounts, that is exactly what I am looking for my GS1000E, much appreciated

here is the gear change side, they are from a gsxr750wp but almost any gsxr footrests will work.......

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How is the riding position with your feet 5" back from stock? I feel like your seat would be much more comfortable with a forward slope. Those are some sharp rearset brackets, they look super high dollar! I think I may consider mounting them more forward and slightly lower, so that the top mount bolt is in the crotch of the frame gusset where the swinger pivot is, just below and to the rear of the swing arm pivot bolt. Slightly higher than stock but to not interfere with the kickstarter.

Can we see a larger picture of your brake side rearset?
 
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