V50 Guzzi re-paint ie: Therapy

[Guest]

Fantastic Larry! That turned out real nice indeed!

I suspect Bill's post may be somewhat tongue in cheek :witless:

Looking forward to the Guzzi paint...

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Sorry if I'm boring you, Bill.. It was actually white over black, too.. I don't have to do this. I do, to share the process and to maybe show some tips on techniques that I've spent years learning. I don't have to spend a ton of time taking pictures, uploading and posting them in sequential order either. I do this for my friend and client, Jim. It's a way for him to stay updated, also. If you've learned it all for yourself, good on you.

I love it all, and have followed the whole process.

 

[nvr2old]

I guess that's one of the down sides of the internet..not knowing for sure if people are kidding or not. You' 've been on this thread from the beginning with interest , so I was surprised by what I had read as.."is that all you got..?" My apologies for the misunderstanding.

 

[Guest]

It's definitely hard to convey sarcasm and tongue in cheek comments without the facial expressions and body language... I've seen many a word war start from a textual misunderstanding, and things that aren't meant to be confronting or offensive can become so rather rapidly!

 

[jsandidge]

One of my co-workers had told me that the color with the smallest area should be laid down first, then the next smallest area, and so on. That looks to be how you've done it. My instincts tell me it should be the lightest color first, darkest last.

It looks like you've had no problem with the black showing through the white. How do you decide what order you use?

 

[nvr2old]

To me the first step is to establish the stripes. Everything works from there. Laying the black on gives you the opportunity to do that and it saves you having to lay down 3 lines of tape side by side then pulling out the center piece to spray the black or white 1/4" stripes. Painting the black first gives you the chance to do that. The white covers the black easily as does the blue. Solid colors cover well.

 

[nvr2old]

Back in the shop for another full day today. Started by getting the parts set up for red. I mask off all the "pedestals" that parts sit on so no dust from them can be blown into the paint. Takes time, but it saves in the long run.





Amazing how bad the color looks in these pics..it's not at all rust colored like that..it's a brilliant Porsche Guards Red. A beauty of a color.







After letting the red dry for 2 hrs. I got set up to do the black stripes in the tank, fairing and side covers. Start with the easy ones first..The vents are under a stripe of black.



The top and bottom of the tank are black, too.





On to the fairing. Getting one side done is not so hard..matching the other side the same takes about twice as long..

 

[nvr2old]

Sprayed the black stripes on the fairing, stripped the masking, and sprayed a few coats of clear to preserve everything.









The inside of the fairing will get satin black. Decals are next after sanding the clear a bit and a second round of clear to follow. Thanks for looking.

 

[alke46]

Great looking results again. Especially the fairing with the black accents. And the black on those side covers really pops.

 

[nvr2old]

Yeah..pure Italian. Wait till the gold decals/emblems are on. Looks like jewelry.

 

[Guest]

Love your work as always Larry, really coming together nicely!

In my so far limited experience I've found masking is only second to prep work for tediousness and difficulty, especially like you say when trying to achieve symmetry side to side. That's one art I've yet to master and I've found myself taking tape off and reapplying several times both on the 450 and the Kat paint jobs, but it's most definitely worth getting right!

Can't wait to see them finished!

 

[nvr2old]

Masking stripes and getting them symmetrical is indeed challeging, Pete. It took over an hour just to get them on the fairing to where I was satisfied..then getting the paper in place so no black got onto the red. All for literally 2 minutes worth of spraying. It's a great relief when it all works out, but drives you insane if it doesn't. I ' m glad I'm finally done with this stage so I can move on to the next. Decals are a bit stressful, too. :ambivalence:

 

[Guest]

Glad it's not just me then Larry and it gives me some comfort to know the pro's struggle with it as well

I've only done a few decals on the Kat and never buried them under clear at this point, but yeah the Suzuki letters on the Kat tank caused me some grief alright!

 

[nvr2old]

Decal day today. Always a bit nerve-wracking. You only get one chance. Started by sanding all the parts with 600 and began with the fairing. I lay out a piece of tape to set them down on after measuring 20 times. Set the decal on the edge and pull the tape off.



I believe my friend Jim said this was an '80 model V50, and we know how '80's graphics always had laser lines and bright color schemes..this is perfect for that era..bright florescent orange. It was a bit long so it needed to be shortened.



It needed this gap to coincide with the side stripes.



Pretty cool looking. Clear is gonna make it really stand out.



The side covers were the easiest..just making sure they're the same on both sides is the only part that takes any time.



More or less just guessing where they sit from the snap shots Jim provided.



This one is kinda cool on top of the tank promoting the brake system. I never really liked integrated braking but it was pretty swoop-dee-doo for the time.



Layed a quarter inch piece of tape right on the body line for the bottom of the decal to sit on, starts right at the beginning of it. Made layout easy.





Interesting laser stripe on the tail section.

 

[nvr2old]

Those Italians don't want you to forget what kind of bike this is..





All decals done and ready for the second round of clear coats. Gotta wait for them to gas out, so no spraying till next weekend. The fenders are done and just need to be cut and buffed. Step at a time..step at a time..

Thanks for the interest.

 

[alke46]

How long does the gassing out period take? Nice to have the patience it takes to get the results that you get. Beautiful work Sir.

 

[SusKatCas]

Thank you for sharing. I have learned a lot from your series.

 

[nvr2old]

How long does the gassing out period take? Nice to have the patience it takes to get the results that you get. Beautiful work Sir.

24 hrs. Is the least amount of time to let the decals breathe and gas out. They really settle down and 90% of any tiny air bubbles will virtually disappear. It'always good to open up clear coats a day after spraying it to also help it breathe and dry more evenly. 600 does a good job on that.

 

[nvr2old]

Thank you for sharing. I have learned a lot from your series.

Thanks for the kind words. I enjoy sharing the process.

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Masking stripes and getting them symmetrical is indeed challeging, Pete. It took over an hour just to get them on the fairing to where I was satisfied..then getting the paper in place so no black got onto the red. All for literally 2 minutes worth of spraying. It's a great relief when it all works out, but drives you insane if it doesn't. I ' m glad I'm finally done with this stage so I can move on to the next. Decals are a bit stressful, too. :ambivalence:

Oh yeah, I second that emotion.