It's just evolution, it has always worked pretty good. Predicting this EV stuff will be the same. Just give it time to evolve into something feasible for normal folks and we'll be there... Not there yet, but are getting closer all the time.
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When do you expect ev bikes to become practical road bikes.
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Believe or not I consider us "normal folks" and we are ready for an EV right now.
Very, very feasible with our current lifestyle.
Same for plenty of folks here in the "big city" I guess....LOL....
There is at least a half dozen Teslas in our little neighborhood.
I've also seen Kia, Ford, Chevy and Hyundai EVs around these parts.
I was looking for some vintage vinyl for my record player and couldn't find some hard to find editions and commented to my son that I may need to get a CD instead. He just starred at me and said "Why? Dad download!" Then later we were in my 24yr old Toyota he saw it had a CD player "Old people technology!" Then he noticed it also had a cassette player, that broke him up.
I how far technology we've come in a very short period, I recall turntables in cars, 8-track, cassettes, digital, Bluetooth, Touchscreens, voice activated,spotify and at each every level I though this is amazing it can't get better. But it does get better someone somewhere is always building on what came before. EV development is exactly the same, all the naysayers predicting the demise of ev because of the shortcomings and hiccups in battery development and infrastructure. Each and every one of those shortcomings has been or will be dealt with and overcome, many in ways we can't imagine, there are literally millions of scientists and engineers pushing technology forward. We're at the tipping point of an EV revolution, ICE's will disappear as fast as 8-tracks, cassettes and flip phones.
I can't begin to imagine what will be possible once quantum computers and AI arrive.
I agree, we're realizing we don't need ice's as much as we think we do. 98% of our driving needs can be met with short commutes via an EV. A growing infrastructure will meet our long distance journeys. We're no more likely to run out of battery range than we are of gas, plan your journey and you'll be fine. In 50 years of driving ICE's I've only run out gas once and that was 50 yrs ago, I don't expect driving an ev will be any different.
Sorry, Bob, that's not at all what I meant by normal folks. Maybe I ought to have said, general population instead of normal folks. I'd think the folks we see driving up and down the rd. are just normal folks, just the general population. When we see those folks, no matter what we call them, buying half of the new autos being sold, I'd think we are there. I just punched it up and was very surprised, 2021 3% of autos sold were EV, 2022 6% were EV, and this yr it says 18% were EV's. Sure looks like we're getting there way quicker than I'd thought we were.
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It looks like Honda is actually playing catch up in the swappable battery game. Kymco and others (mostly Asian others) are well along in their implementation.
https://electrek.co/2023/11/13/how-kymco-hopes-to-change-the-game-for-swappable-battery-evs/
They are selling both the batteries and the controller module (Battery Monitoring Unit or BMU) to go with them. It will make it much easier for companies to get into small ev manufacturing. They (Kymco) are actually facilitating the manufacture of scooters that will compete with their own brand but that will use Kymco's batteries and tech. And scooters can be sold cheap because the battery in it isn't purchased; it is rented. You just swap it our for a new one at a nearby kiosk when you need. It is something akin to the old Gillette model--give away the razors to sell the blades.
The move from ICE to electric motor propulsion opens the door for many different companies to get in the game and for many creative approaches.
https://electrek.co/2023/11/13/how-kymco-hopes-to-change-the-game-for-swappable-battery-evs/
They are selling both the batteries and the controller module (Battery Monitoring Unit or BMU) to go with them. It will make it much easier for companies to get into small ev manufacturing. They (Kymco) are actually facilitating the manufacture of scooters that will compete with their own brand but that will use Kymco's batteries and tech. And scooters can be sold cheap because the battery in it isn't purchased; it is rented. You just swap it our for a new one at a nearby kiosk when you need. It is something akin to the old Gillette model--give away the razors to sell the blades.
The move from ICE to electric motor propulsion opens the door for many different companies to get in the game and for many creative approaches.
An easier market to sell to, SE Asia scooters and small displacement bikes rule the roads short city commutes are the norm.
I've got one in a box somewhere, no idea how to use it.
I found myself looking at eride-pro bikes today. 60 mph, 50 mile range at 25 mph, 90% recharge in 2 hours. I could use that for a lot of my in-town commuting.
I know it slides around I just never had any classes where I needed it so didn't learn how to make calculations.
Yep, me too, really bunches of little numbers and lines, really looked complicated to those that didn't understand them... Old story. Yrs. ago a Local guy driving for Yellow freight just got in from a long run. Dispatcher said he had a hot load going to Atlanta. The driver said OK, let me go fuel up. Dispatch asked where did you last fuel up, driver told him and dispatch slid out his slide ruler and said, no you got plenty of fuel to make that run. Driver argued for a minute, then agreed to leave with the load... Few hr.'s later out of fuel. Driver hitch-hiked to a phone and called back to dispatch, hey I'm out of fuel, Dispatch asked where are you at? Driver replied , Get your dang slide ruler and figure out where I'm at.:-k
This is motorcycle forum we have our silo, primarily vintage Suzukis mostly 750cc and up we tend to be dismissive of small displacement and EVs. We are part of the emissions problem that is causing the world to move to EVs.
I came across some interesting facts.
E-bikes and e-mopeds now number a staggering 280 million world wide and are having a bigger effect slashing emissions than EV cars.
Oil demand has dropped a million barrels per day because of them about 1% of the worlds total oil demand.
If you could commute 20 miles per day the average yearly cost would be about $20
I came across some interesting facts.
E-bikes and e-mopeds now number a staggering 280 million world wide and are having a bigger effect slashing emissions than EV cars.
Oil demand has dropped a million barrels per day because of them about 1% of the worlds total oil demand.
If you could commute 20 miles per day the average yearly cost would be about $20
Probably correct, Of the videos and films I've seen of those countries that have an abundance of mopeds and scooters, many of them appear to be puffing smoke like a two stroke. If the EV's are replacing 2 strokes, or 4 strokes puffing smoke, the emission savings would be huge... Always wondered why outboards were almost always 2 stroke? Why not just convert one of our GS engines, or a Gold Wing eng. Finally in the past 10 yrs. they've done it. From what I'm seeing out on the lakes, the general population is buying way more 4 stroke outboards. I rarely see a "new" 2 stroke any more.
And yet, the CO2 levels are increasing, and I'm not sure how well things will turn out when (if) peak fossil fuel demand tapers steeply after 2030.
We can only do our part to control our emissions. Emissions will continue to rise for other reasons, the poorer countries are trying to attain our level of development and that means using cheaper fossil fuels and concrete for building projects.
