When do you expect ev bikes to become practical road bikes.

[GS1150Pilot]

You mean a low mileage JDM motor that you could install yourself with a friend in a couple of weekends? Probably cost less than $2000 all in.

HONDA CIVIC ENGINE MOTOR JDM R18A 1.8L 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 | eBay​

 

[rphillips]

Just read on msn.com that 3000 auto dealers have signed, and are sending a letter to Joe Biden, opposing his electric vehicle mandates. Something about their showrooms are already getting overrun with the EV's and folks aren't buying them even with huge discounts and govt. rebates for buying them. Reading the last of the article explains the benefits to China while impeding others... I've no clue if article is true or not.

 

[wyly]

You mean a low mileage JDM motor that you could install yourself with a friend in a couple of weekends? Probably cost less than $2000 all in.

HONDA CIVIC ENGINE MOTOR JDM R18A 1.8L 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 | eBay​

I wouldn't buy a used engine with unknown service record nor would I and a friend install it, nor do I know anyone that would. This would be attractive option to only small part of the population. If you have the time and expertise great for you

 

[GS1150Pilot]

Lots of good used engines out there, sold by reliable vendors. Not too hard to do if you have the facility at hand and a friend or two. I guess growing up in a family headed by a mechanic made me look at things differently.

 

[RichDesmond]

I'm guessing that the percentage of the population that would seriously consider a DIY car engine swap is in the 1-2% range.

 

[GS1150Pilot]

Again, you're probably right, Rich. I guess, having done it multiple times with everything from Mini Coopers and Triumph TR series to a VW Rabbit, a BMW 325 and a Ford Crown Vic, it just doesn't seem that prohibitive when weighed against the cost of buying new, and it builds a real relationship with the vehicle-but you know that, I'm certain.

 

[Baatfam]

Lots of good used engines out there, sold by reliable vendors. Not too hard to do if you have the facility at hand and a friend or two. I guess growing up in a family headed by a mechanic made me look at things differently.

I'm guessing that the percentage of the population that would seriously consider a DIY car engine swap is in the 1-2% range.

Things is, that 1-2% (I am one), will be same people swapping in a used battery pack if needed. Or rebuilding the bad one.
So six of one, or half a dozen of the other.

Reminds me, I have an EGO battery pack that needs to be repaired. YouTube, here we come.....

 

[Rob S.]

So i'm a "1 percent-er"? (I have swapped engines in a '68 Camaro and an old VW Beetle, both single handedly).

So I guess I have to start riding an obnoxiously loud Harley and importing crystal meth from Mexico?

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

So i'm a "1 percent-er"? (I have swapped engines in a '68 Camaro and an old VW Beetle, both single handedly).

Did the VW engine go in the Camaro, or the Camaro engine in the Beetle?

So I guess I have to start riding an obnoxiously loud Harley and importing crystal meth from Mexico?

We all thought you were doing that all along.

 

[Rob S.]

We all thought you were doing that all along.

No, 350 replaced a blown 327, and the beetles were the next year. My female housemate had 2 VWs. One had a good engine, the other had the rest. So Rob volunteers...

At least Trudy paid for the copy of "Idiot's Guide To Volkswagen."

I'm still astounded by the energy I had in my early 20's. Not enough sex (or too much crystal meth). :mad-new:

 

[rphillips]

This stuff has changed A LOT. I've a neighbor who buys cars and fixes them up and resells them, including changing engines. He's told me these days many engines come out the bottom of the car, I've changed several car and truck motors and all them were lifted out the top. Back then there were appx. 4 elect wires to hook up, today he's always having to change wiring harnesses and plugs on wiring harnesses... really seems a lot more confusing than it yus'ta be... Also he bought a Ford pick-up a couple of weeks ago, crankcase was full of water, no doubt needed an eng. replacement. He told me later all it needed was a new water pump and a good flushing out. Ford has started designing some of their engines where a faulty water pump can leak water inside of the crankcase... Rekon what will happen if you don't find it soon enough???

 

[Rob S.]

Yeah, my engine swapping days were in the 1970's. I wouldn't even dream of doing that now, even if I had the body of a 20 year old.

I remember when mirrors were just pieces of glass. Now they're computers.

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

I've always thought of John Stossel as a straight shooter. This video is a year old.

 

[rphillips]

Dang, I'd thought we'd eventually get there, it would just take a while for evolution to make smaller batts. that hold more elect. longer, and motors that would use less energy, and an infrastructure to support it all, eventually we'd get there. The way that guy talks, not only will we not be there by 2035, as our President is say'in, he thinks we'll never get there. But like most everything else these days for everybody that thinks as this guy does, there's just as many folks thinking as our president does... Guess we can just have our own opinion, respect and let others have theirs, then accept which ever one winds up being right.

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

I’m not saying I believe everything I see or read. How could you. Just posted the video to add food for thought. But it does make it difficult to believe that our “officials” know the answers and how best to achieve the desired result.

 

[dpep]

I’m not saying I believe everything I see or read. How could you. Just posted the video to add food for thought. But it does make it difficult to believe that our “officials” know the answers and how best to achieve the desired result.

But it is not just our officials. It is also the top scientists and engineers working in governments, major universities, and multi-national corporations around the globe that are sharing this quest and making contributions to advance it.

Taken collectively I would tend to trust their conclusions over those rendered by Stossel.

Years ago I was a fan of Stossel. He had a piece on what exactly is happiness that I really enjoyed; I may still have a tape of it I recorded on VHS. But his schtick of low key negativity on whatever the subject got old over time. Stand-up comedians like Steven Wright and Don Rickles made good careers doing it but strictly to entertain without pretense they were seriously informing anyone.

 

[GS1150Pilot]

This stuff has changed A LOT. I've a neighbor who buys cars and fixes them up and resells them, including changing engines. He's told me these days many engines come out the bottom of the car, I've changed several car and truck motors and all them were lifted out the top. Back then there were appx. 4 elect wires to hook up, today he's always having to change wiring harnesses and plugs on wiring harnesses... really seems a lot more confusing than it yus'ta be... Also he bought a Ford pick-up a couple of weeks ago, crankcase was full of water, no doubt needed an eng. replacement. He told me later all it needed was a new water pump and a good flushing out. Ford has started designing some of their engines where a faulty water pump can leak water inside of the crankcase... Rekon what will happen if you don't find it soon enough???

1960's Mini Coopers are easier to drop from the bottom. You just drop the motor/transmission with the subframe. But you can take a Honda engine out with a hoist if you don't want to drop the subframe. I worked in a Honda shop in my early 20's, and the cars are not horrible to work on, even today.

 

[rphillips]

I couldn't doubt what you say. In my early 20's there were no Honda (cars) a nor mini coopers around my area to be driven nor worked on. We rarely saw anything other than Ford, Chrysler, or GM. Also as not horrible to work on, even today was mentioned. My wife's 14,000 mi., 2000 SS Camaro sits in my garage today with a bad fuel pump. No way I can afford a GM dealer, and few independents will even take on the job. To change that fuel pump today, remove exhaust system, remove rear differential, remove fuel tank, R/R $350 fuel pump, then put it all back together, as opposed to the old 1 hr job to R/R the $15 fuel pump on my old 1970 Chevelle SS or my bro.s 1977 Ford Ranger pick-up.

 

[wyly]

Also he bought a Ford pick-up a couple of weeks ago, crankcase was full of water, no doubt needed an eng. replacement. He told me later all it needed was a new water pump and a good flushing out. Ford has started designing some of their engines where a faulty water pump can leak water inside of the crankcase... Rekon what will happen if you don't find it soon enough???

But knowing it's history that the crankcase was full of water would you still be interested in buying it? I'd take a pass on that.

 

[wyly]

But it is not just our officials. It is also the top scientists and engineers working in governments, major universities, and multi-national corporations around the globe that are sharing this quest and making contributions to advance it.

Taken collectively I would tend to trust their conclusions over those rendered by Stossel.

Years ago I was a fan of Stossel. He had a piece on what exactly is happiness that I really enjoyed; I may still have a tape of it I recorded on VHS. But his schtick of low key negativity on whatever the subject got old over time. Stand-up comedians like Steven Wright and Don Rickles made good careers doing it but strictly to entertain without pretense they were seriously informing anyone.

And the biggest factor of all there's not just billions riding on this conversion to green energy but trillions. Manufacturers have a profit incentive to make it work, whenever there's a profit to be made things get done, those manufacturers that fall behind lose.