Won't Start

[koolaid_kid]

Although aftermarket parts are available, I prefer to use OEM parts for this. Check the list of OEM parts suppliers from BassCliff's MegaWelcome.

 

[1_v8_merc]

I wouldn't use "chain oil", I would just use motor-oil like the manual specifies.

But I guess it depends which kind of chain you have?

 

[koolaid_kid]

Yet another example of why the manual is not correct for everything. The best lube is either chain wax (~$15) or DuPont Teflon Multi-Use Dry, Wax Lubricant from Lowes (~$8). Guess which one I use?

 

[tom203]

How hard is it to just repair a leak?

The hole is about a pinsize. I think it may be hard finding another gas tank for it. I wouldn't mind modifying it to a cafe racer style either... No experience with that either though.

Don't lose sight of fact that leaking tank wouldn't cause bike to not start...unless a bad petcock is flooding fuel past leaky float valve seats into airbox saturating filter element(do you still have one?) causing a plug fouling problem. Now that you have tank off, do you see the remnants of a choke lever dohickey- would be right next to throttle cable attachment at carbs?

 

[GS650E_81]

Yes. The previous owner took off the choke button. Nothing is attached to the choke.

I still have the air filter element. I cleaned it yesterday. I have not checked to see if its saturated though.

I was thinking the whole time maybe the petcock is bad. It looks in bad shape. I can't find one online either for my specific bike. But if I win this 650G tank I may need to buy a new one.

Don't lose sight of fact that leaking tank wouldn't cause bike to not start...unless a bad petcock is flooding fuel past leaky float valve seats into airbox saturating filter element(do you still have one?) causing a plug fouling problem. Now that you have tank off, do you see the remnants of a choke lever dohickey- would be right next to throttle cable attachment at carbs?

 

[GS650E_81]

Would these boots work for the 650E?

http://www.z1enterprises.com/Airbox-Hoses-4-Suzuki-GS850GGL-4403.aspx



I can't seem to find these online.

 

[cowboyup3371]

Not according to the parts fiche. Go to http://www.gssuzuki.com/fiche_select1.asp?cat=Motorcycles&mfg=Suzuki, enter your bike year and model, and have a look see. You'll get all the part numbers you'll need.

Just remember you'll want the engine side for sure and possibly the air box side. You'll find the engine side under the cylinder head section

 

[GS650E_81]

The parts list for the intake side doesn't show the number 11 boot. I assume I need numbers 9-13 on the diagram. Hard to read these.

The engine side are expensive! $117 on the Z1 site.

Not according to the parts fiche. Go to http://www.gssuzuki.com/fiche_select1.asp?cat=Motorcycles&mfg=Suzuki, enter your bike year and model, and have a look see. You'll get all the part numbers you'll need.

Just remember you'll want the engine side for sure and possibly the air box side. You'll find the engine side under the cylinder head section

 

[cowboyup3371]

<$100 from GS Suzuki

 

[Guest]

The parts list for the intake side doesn't show the number 11 boot. I assume I need numbers 9-13 on the diagram. Hard to read these.

The engine side are expensive! $117 on the Z1 site.

Shop around. I had to buy some for my 650E but they werent 117 bux.
Also I dont think Z1 sells OEM.

 

[koolaid_kid]

Shop around. I had to buy some for my 650E but they werent 117 bux.
Also I dont think Z1 sells OEM.

AFA I am aware, they do not sell OEM, but they may be willing to order them. Not sure they would be able to beat the price at GS Suzuki, though. As I suggested before, for these parts I would (and did) get genuine Suzuki parts. Cables are another item I would go OEM rather than Motion Pro, which tend to be less robust. Although there was another aftermarket cable brand that looked promising for a reasonable price, anyone remember that thread?

 

[TheCafeKid]

Shop around. I had to buy some for my 650E but they werent 117 bux.
Also I dont think Z1 sells OEM.

Z1 will get OeM parts just like any other supply house. The only parts they stock however are what are on their site. However there have been a couple of occasions where I went to Z1 when other usual suspects said they couldn't get a particular prt and Z1 came through.

 

[GS650E_81]

I will pick some up from GS Suzuki.

 

[steve murdoch]

Cheap choke cable...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GS-G...Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4cf97fc50c

 

[GS650E_81]

Anyone happen to know if the 650G tank will fit on a 650E frame?

 

[tom203]

Anyone happen to know if the 650G tank will fit on a 650E frame?

They're listed at same capacity (4.2 gal), so seems very likely they are the same. One bolt holds rear of tank down.

 

[GS650E_81]

I have two bolts for my frame...

I checked the bike after work. It appears that the carb boots are moist from fuel. Also the airbox has a little gas in it.

I wonder if the petcock malfunctioned and overflowed the carbs?

They're listed at same capacity (4.2 gal), so seems very likely they are the same. One bolt holds rear of tank down.

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

I wonder if the petcock malfunctioned and overflowed the carbs?

If so, check your oil too. A leaking petcock/carbs will allow gas into the cylinder, past the rings, and into the crankcase. This will dilute your oil and cause trouble if you run the engine in that state. Smell the oil and see if there is gas in there. If so, change it immediately.

Or, if the gas stays in the cylinder it will cause a hydrolock and could possibly bend a rod or worse.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[GS650E_81]

Will it be okay if I leave it in there and just not start the engine? I don't have a oil pan at the moment.

Hi,



If so, check your oil too. A leaking petcock/carbs will allow gas into the cylinder, past the rings, and into the crankcase. This will dilute your oil and cause trouble if you run the engine in that state. Smell the oil and see if there is gas in there. If so, change it immediately.

Or, if the gas stays in the cylinder it will cause a hydrolock and could possibly bend a rod or worse.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[GS650E_81]

It is a faint smell of gas, but after my gas tank leak, everything does.