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Won't Start

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Well I just dropped the carb body.

Nice productive holiday, worked on bike ALL day, felt productive.

- Tore down carb 1, except stuck pilot jet
- degreased carb 1
- dropped in carb dip.

Another question, after pulling the float seat, I noticed a BUNCH of muck, and crud in the cavity. I also noticed that the basket looks to be tore a little. Not sure if this is a big issue or not. I made sure to clean the cavity as best I good as well as the basket. I tried to take picture but focus is not working for some reason.

Will it be okay if I have a little tear in the basket filter type piece?

 
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The little filter did its job, so get another, probably $5. poke/blow that little hole in bowl bottom that feeds enrichment system tube, cuz its a good place for crud to hide.
 
Pulled the carb body out of the dip. I let it soak for 22 hours.

I am still unable to remove the pilot screw...it is stripped pretty bad, guess I am screwed. Am I suppose to dip the starter plunger? If so, how do I remove what looks to be a rubber piece at the end of the needle. Also, how do I remove the basket from the needle valve and seat? or is it okay to soak that with the basket on, just remove the o-ring?

I think the carb looks pretty good, never dipped before though. It appears to have a oxidation look to it, I assume that is normal..



 
Don't dip the plunger. Use your toothbrush and carb cleaner on it instead.
Leave the basket, remove the o-ring.
The collective may have the best answer on the jet. It needs to come out no matter what. Perhaps a left-handed drill bit, turning very slowly?
 
Have you tried acetone/brake fluid soaking in jet cavity? Alternatively, assuming you have now reworked a screwdriver to fit well, you could try popping the carb body in 250 degree oven (toaster oven outside cuz it will smell), wait 1 hour as you find oven mitts , remove and attack again. The aluminum alloy body will expand more than brass jet. If all else fails, the left handed drill bit might work, if you can align it nicely, i.e. drill press.
 
tom203 said:
Have you tried acetone/brake fluid soaking in jet cavity? Alternatively, assuming you have now reworked a screwdriver to fit well, you could try popping the carb body in 250 degree oven (toaster oven outside cuz it will smell), wait 1 hour as you find oven mitts , remove and attack again. The aluminum alloy body will expand more than brass jet. If all else fails, the left handed drill bit might work, if you can align it nicely, i.e. drill press.
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I don't have a toaster oven. I do however have a mapp gas hand torch lying around, from when I did some plumbing work. Would it be safe to heat one side of the carb body and see if it loosens up the jet? I am going to pick up the exact size screwdrivers mentioned in the rebuild guide today.
 
GS650E_81 said:
I don't have a toaster oven. I do however have a mapp gas hand torch lying around, from when I did some plumbing work. Would it be safe to heat one side of the carb body and see if it loosens up the jet? I am going to pick up the exact size screwdrivers mentioned in the rebuild guide today.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!no toaster oven?? ask your neighbor to borrow one, or go to second hand store and get one for $5. The idea is not to melt carb body, but raise its temp 200 degrees for a while to stimulate stuff.
 
I would ask the GF, if present, to go shopping for a while and use the kitchen oven. I have done so before while curing the black paint on carbs. It smells a bit, but nothing overpowering.
I picked up an old toaster oven for a song and that is what I use now. Much easier to relocate also.
 
Did you read the pages on carb cleaning on bascliff's welcome page?

Did the 650G tank fit?
 
I took the carb to a local harley shop. The owner Fred, was really nice and got the stuck pilot jet out for me.

He was also working on a '79 honda, said his customer wanted a bobber. It looked pretty sweet, custom exhaust and many other things, I really liked the old school style.

But yeah, I am happy. Going to hop on gssuzuki.com and order a new jet.
 
One thing you learn working on these old bikes is that you get things wrong and patience is a virtue. My old man used to get stuck on something that just didn't work out right and he would walk away, have a cup of tea and a 'fag' followed by 10 minutes thinking time before diving in.

There will be a way of getting that jet out even now. It's messed up yes, but there will be a way to sort it.

Keep writing about your exploit's, it will inspire people to try also plus your learning as your going.

As a work colleague say when somebody is learning and doing well, 'Nice work.'
 
Excellent news. Be sure and order new float bowl gaskets while you are at it.
 
Anyone know of another place to buy the jet? gssuzuki.com wants $8 for shipping, that's more than the actual jet...

Also were to get float bowl gaskets?

I searched for jet sizes for factory OEM, but did not see anything for a GS650E. The jet says 42.5, I don't know if this is factory size or not.
 
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GS650E_81 said:
Anyone know of another place to buy the jet? gssuzuki.com wants $8 for shipping, that's more than the actual jet...

Also were to get float bowl gaskets?

I searched for jet sizes for factory OEM, but did not see anything for a GS650E. The jet says 42.5, I don't know if this is factory size or not.
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I buy my bowl gaskets on ebay. Just choose "lowest price first" to get the best deal. Usually around 10 bux shipped. Be sure and pick a good seller.

Without reading back, you are talking about the pilot jet correct?
That sounds like an OEM size to me.

You'll just have to shop around, or post a thread in the wanted section. Betcha someone will hook ya up.
 
Thanks, I did some searching and bought one from powersportsplus.com they had a good deal.

I will look at ebay for gaskets.
 
Those appear to be anatomically correct, but almost appear homemade. They should work, though.
 
As far as carb #1 goes the gasket doesn't really look to bad, just has some brown varnish or dirt spots on it. Can I just reuse it?
 
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