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    Originally posted by RichDesmond View Post
    Looks more to me like he's boxed himself in with a bunch of bad options, and no good ones.
    wait I have it figured out finally
    its so the pasty roly poly guys in their 40-80s can get more beach space on the Black AKA north sea which is actually a south and south west sea
    god those state vacation resorts of yore. hes doing a cool show trial\news conference thing now.
    cue the scene from Stephen King's The Dead Zone
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      Originally posted by RichDesmond View Post
      Looks more to me like he's boxed himself in with a bunch of bad options, and no good ones.
      Probably though that he could get concession like Hitler did and that the west will appease him and do nothing. He may be right but it's a huge gamble, he could take the Ukraine but have his economy crushed and the Russian people rise up against him.

      How tough will the sanctions be, will the Europeans enforce them. Will the Russian people choose patriotic flag waving over personal economic disaster.
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        Who's gonna be disappointed if nothing happens?
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          Originally posted by Buffalo Bill View Post
          Who's gonna be disappointed if nothing happens?
          Invasion on they crossed over
          The WMD in Ukraine was a nice poke in western hypocrisies eye
          People dying now
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            It's pretty much started already.
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              Originally posted by Buffalo Bill View Post
              Who's gonna be disappointed if nothing happens?
              The great thing about being pessimistic if the worst case scenario doesn't happen you're okay with being wrong.
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                Should we do up free Ukraine tshirts? Could we repurpose old free James brown and free Tibet

                Ineffective but a nice little money maker.
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                  Originally posted by wyly View Post
                  The great thing about being pessimistic if the worst case scenario doesn't happen you're okay with being wrong.
                  Not me...... I've been freeing up cash to buy a market dip .....
                  Old age and treachery will beat youth and skill every time
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                    Ukraine now wishing they'd kept some of that bottled sunshine.
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                      Looks like it's on
                      Putin declares new borders
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                        Originally posted by Grimly View Post
                        Ukraine now wishing they'd kept some of that bottled sunshine.
                        Yup trusting Russians to uphold a non aggression treaty with the Ukraine is the equivalent of Russians promising not to cheat in the Olympics.
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                          Putin the Poisoner's long rambling speech has laid it out pretty plainly..nibble chunks off Ukraine and let the world suck it up with various sanctions and reprimands... It worked in Crimea. . Previous sanctions did little to get them back or deter Russia from more of the same. (naturally, Nobody much cared about Chechnya)
                          I think Someone here got it right, per humouring China and waiting for Olympics to end.

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                            Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
                            Putin the Poisoner's long rambling speech has laid it out pretty plainly..nibble chunks off Ukraine and let the world suck it up with various sanctions and reprimands... It worked in Crimea. . Previous sanctions did little to get them back or deter Russia from more of the same. (naturally, Nobody much cared about Chechnya)
                            I think Someone here got it right, per humouring China and waiting for Olympics to end.
                            The whole "Sanctions" thing by the West is puzzling to say the least. Cutting off the breakaway republics as opposed to Russia proper is only serving to hand the Russians those republics on a platter.
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                              Originally posted by LAB3 View Post
                              The whole "Sanctions" thing by the West is puzzling to say the least. Cutting off the breakaway republics as opposed to Russia proper is only serving to hand the Russians those republics on a platter.
                              Yes punishing Russian speaking Ukrainians is as stupid as can be.
                              Aimed at rebels but will harm common people
                              And Abramovich not touched too many UK politicos in his pocket.

                              I wonder how much UK German and US citizens will pay in gasoline exise tax increases alone. They're governments cashing in while affecting nothing.
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                                Originally posted by LAB3 View Post
                                The whole "Sanctions" thing by the West is puzzling to say the least. Cutting off the breakaway republics as opposed to Russia proper is only serving to hand the Russians those republics on a platter.
                                It's appeasing European nations that want find minuscule details to avoid the big sanction hammer. The rebel areas were already occupied by Russia soldiers they produce nothing of importance to the west so sanctions applied to those regions are meaningless but it's sounds good on the news.

                                Once the Russian troops cross over into Ukrainian controlled regions the big hammer has to by played, if not Putin will take it as green light to take all of the Ukraine. Which he may do regardless as he believes corporate profits mean more to the west than Ukrainian independence.
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