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Triumph Speed 400 and Scrambler 400 - Thoughts?

Baatfam

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So here in the states, the new Triumph Speed 400 is suppose to hit the dealers in January.
As I approach 70, i find myself very interested in a low cost, light weight, more standard bike.
Seems to me, at 375 lbs wet and 40hp it could be a lot of fun. Especially at the $5K price, (probably close to 6K with options, fees and taxes).

Anywho....I configured one in blue, and sent it to my dealer. See what they say....

Street on the left, Scrambler on the right...


Early cycle world review: https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-reviews/triumph-speed-400-exclusive-first-test-review/
 
Agreed on all points, Bob, especially the blue.

You're going for the Street, I assume?
 
bwringer said:
Agreed on all points, Bob, especially the blue.

You're going for the Street, I assume?
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Most likely, although the Scrambler is tempting.

Also, CFO is not "officially" on board yet. But working on it...;)
 
I think you'll love that bike in either version. My brother and a local friend here bought the 390 KTM Adventure a few years ago and just love the balance of power and lightweight which is quite comparable to the Triumph. That bike has pretty much become their daily rider. They are very user friendly for lack of a better term.
 
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Baatfam said:
Most likely, although the Scrambler is tempting.

Also, CFO is not "officially" on board yet. But working on it...;)
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LOL, I've always referred to that as "Clearing it with corporate" :)

Those are sweet looking and interesting bikes, I'm thinking about the Speed 400 myself. I assume you've seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igdCnYjBt4
If you're on the Adventure Rider forum there's a big thread on the Scrambler version.

The other new lightweight bike that's really caught my attention is the new Royal Enfield Himalayan.
 
I was looking at the baby scrambler as possibly my next bike, before the Tiger popped into view. I do still prefer the styling of the Triumph Twins (yes, I know the 400 is a single, but looks like the bigger twins, otherwise). Maybe if my son starts looking for a new bike, I’ll gently nudge him toward the 400X. He’d have no choice but to keep it in my garage, and I’d have no choice but to make sure it got fresh gas run through it regularly. :-\\\
 
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RichDesmond said:
LOL, I've always referred to that as "Clearing it with corporate" :)

Those are sweet looking and interesting bikes, I'm thinking about the Speed 400 myself. I assume you've seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igdCnYjBt4
If you're on the Adventure Rider forum there's a big thread on the Scrambler version.

The other new lightweight bike that's really caught my attention is the new Royal Enfield Himalayan.
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Rich, i've watched that video twice now.
The camerawork is as spectacular as the scenery, the comaraderie between the leads is fun and oh yeah, the bike are impressive, too.
 
So the local Triumph dealer here in Knoxville wants a $1000, NON-refundable deposit to hold one.
And that's not going to happen....:rolleyes:

Guess I can check other dealers within a couple hours....
 
RichDesmond said:
LOL, I've always referred to that as "Clearing it with corporate" :)

Those are sweet looking and interesting bikes, I'm thinking about the Speed 400 myself. I assume you've seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igdCnYjBt4
If you're on the Adventure Rider forum there's a big thread on the Scrambler version.

The other new lightweight bike that's really caught my attention is the new Royal Enfield Himalayan.
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That road will definitely tighten your sphincter. I've done it twice in a Toyota Qualis { Indian version of a Landrover } ..... The second time I took a mountain bike and would have my driver let me out at pass summits. Sometimes you can get 10 or more miles of downhill ..... Sometimes you have to back up a mile or so to pass the truck coming the other way because the road is so narrow.... And even when you do pass the road is still narrow and a thousand or more feet straight down on one side. The first time my driver passed a truck in one of those sections I couldn't believe the wheels were still on the road because looking out the window I couldn't see any road just cliff.... After that I had him drop me off in those places and after he passed the truck I would get back in .....Those drivers seem to know exactly how wide their vehicle is .... { Though my personal opinion is they're just plain nuts ! }
 
Baatfam said:
So the local Triumph dealer here in Knoxville wants a $1000, NON-refundable deposit to hold one.
And that's not going to happen....:rolleyes:

Guess I can check other dealers within a couple hours....
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I'm thinking of waiting until next fall. Ought to be some pristine, low mileage used ones available, without all the BS add-on fees.

I see you found the AdvRider forum. :)
 
RichDesmond said:
I'm thinking of waiting until next fall. Ought to be some pristine, low mileage used ones available, without all the BS add-on fees.
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Well, I normally buy used. In fact, I've only bought one new motorbike in my life, and that was in 1975, so I kinda wanted to try it again.
I have a list of other Triumph dealers within 2-3 hours from the house. I'll call around next week.

I see you found the AdvRider forum. :)
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LOL....I registered there years ago, but had to start over and re-register...

I did read the whole 400X thread...Interesting.
 
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I think a smaller bike would be fun. For me, that currently looks to be a DR650 on the horizon, but I have such good memories of RZ350s and a GS500E.
 
GS1150Pilot said:
I think a smaller bike would be fun. For me, that currently looks to be a DR650 on the horizon, but I have such good memories of RZ350s and a GS500E.
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Have you looked at the new RE Himalayan? Vast improvement over the current version. As with the Triumph, there's a huge thread over on Adventure Rider.
Also about a billion really cool videos on YouTube, RE has done a phenomenal promotional job with this bike.
 
Yep, I did a bunch of reading on pretty much all the middleweight adventure bikes. To be honest, if money allows, I might buy a Tenere 700, but it's hard to beat the DR for reliability, parts and modification availability, and a vast body of knowledge about every detail of the machine. The Tenere's engine is also a proven commodity. Not so much the new Sherpa engine in the RE.

Edit: Something else I am taking into consideration is weight. The RE weighs almost as much as the Tenere, gassed up, but has half the horsepower and less suspension travel. The DR weighs 75 pounds less but makes about the same horsepower as the RE with far more suspension travel.
 
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Since the Himalayan was brought up, Itchy Boots (Noraly) recently put a pre-production model of the RE through it's paces in northern India. Now she's back in Africa on the Honda CRF that has taken her across 3 continents now. Amazing the production value of her videos she captures completely by herself. No chase vehicle, no camera crew. Impressive. Her, I mean. If you aren't subscribed to her channel, you should be.

 
As do I. Great stuff.

I hear ya on the various tradeoffs. On the weight, keep in mind that the Himalayan already has a centerstand and crash bars. Another big plus is the availability of spoked, tubeless wheels. Just seems like an interesting bike, really in it's own niche as a lightweight all world travel bike.
 
RichDesmond said:
As do I. Great stuff.

I hear ya on the various tradeoffs. On the weight, keep in mind that the Himalayan already has a centerstand and crash bars. Another big plus is the availability of spoked, tubeless wheels. Just seems like an interesting bike, really in it's own niche as a lightweight all world travel bike.
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For sure, though a DR doesn't really need crashbars-probably just a good bashplate and you're good. As for a centerstand, I think this will suffice on the DR: Enduro Star / Trail Stand​
 
GS1150Pilot said:
For sure, though a DR doesn't really need crashbars-probably just a good bashplate and you're good.
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True, a dirt bike ought to be able to handle falling over. :) The stock steel tank is the only thing I'd worry about. I've got a Clark plastic 4 gallon tank on the DR-Z400, hit the ground many times without damage.
As for a centerstand, I think this will suffice on the DR: Enduro Star / Trail Stand​
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I use a cutoff crutch for that purpose, same idea. Works ok in pinch, but not super stable.
 
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