• Required reading for all forum users!!!

    Welcome!
    Register to access the full functionality of the GSResources forum. Until you register and activate your account you will not have full forum access, nor will you be able to post or reply to messages.

    A note to new registrants...
    All new forum registrations must be activated via email before you have full access to the forum.

    A Special Note about Email accounts!
    DO NOT SIGN UP USING hotmail, outlook, gmx, sbcglobal, att, bellsouth or email.com. They delete our forum signup emails.

    A note to old forum members...
    I receive numerous requests from people who can no longer log in because their accounts were deleted. As mentioned in the forum FAQ, user accounts are deleted if you haven't logged in for the past 6 months. If you can't log in, then create a new forum account. If you don't get an error message, then check your email account for an activation message. If you get a message stating that the email address is already in use, then your account still exists so follow the instructions in the forum FAQ for resetting your password.

    Have you forgotten your password or have a new email address? Then read the forum FAQ for details on how to reset it.

    Any email requests for "can't log in anymore" problems or "lost my password" problems will be deleted. Read the forum FAQ and follow the instructions there - that's what we have one for...

  • Returning Visitors

    If you are a returning visitor who never received your confirmation email, then odds are your email provider is blockinig emails from our server. The only thing that can be done to get around this is you will have to try creating another forum account using an email address from another domain.

    If you are a returning visitor to the forum and can't log in using your old forum name and password but used to be able to then chances are your account is deleted. Purges of the databases are done regularly. You will have to create a new forum account and you should be all set.

1981 GSX1100 Katana Based Project

No many parts left on the shelf now, screen, indicators, brake lines, fuel cap and tap, speedo and throttle cable, horn, exhaust system.. Hhhmmmm, tempted to weigh them all together and see what I have.
 
Last edited:
Getting closer to the finish line now.


cowl 1a by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


tank1 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


I still need to make a headlight surround, muffler bracket and rear indicator brackets. Other jobs are to fit the fuel tap, paint the horn and install exhaust system and rear indicators and cables.

Will also overhaul the front and rear calipers with new kits as well as overhaul the front and rear master cylinders with new kits. Once that is done it's off to the Wizard to sort out the electrics.


Running tally = 179,667 grams.
 
Last edited:
On the leitmotiv of the thread, I seem that, by halving the clacsons of post # 370 in two, you could see a weight saving of 27gr out of nothing (single clacson = 282gr twin = 509/2 = 254gr)

I'm starting to dig this bike;
 
What do we estimate this Kat will do in the quarter mile? I'll venture high nines with a good, light rider. Maybe 130 mph at the end.
 
On the leitmotiv of the thread, I seem that, by halving the clacsons of post # 370 in two, you could see a weight saving of 27gr out of nothing (single clacson = 282gr twin = 509/2 = 254gr)

I'm starting to dig this bike;

Yes, the twin horn weight when halved would be like you say = 254 g and lighter than the single horn. Turns out each horn is the same weight and it is the brackets that account for the difference in weight, the single bracket is heavier than it should be because of where it was designed to be mounted. With an alternative horn position there is no reason why the new bracket can not be smaller and lighter. That's the plan for now.

OEM twin horn by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


The solution is to make a smaller bracket in aluminium to replace the steel OEM single bracket. My estimate is the single horn with an ally bracket should come in at around 246 grams.


OEM single horn bracket by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
 
Last edited:
What do we estimate this Kat will do in the quarter mile? I'll venture high nines with a good, light rider. Maybe 130 mph at the end.

With the focus on shedding weight above all else unfortunately performance had to take a backseat on this build. However, with an improved power to weight ratio there will be some gain in performance. I think it would be a struggle for high nines or even 10's and 11's but whatever it could do would still be fun?
 
Last edited:
Had a chance to sort out the lighter horn bracket today. I have used thin ally for the bracket and with 253 grams hanging on the bracket I decided to use a triangular bracket to offer better support, a few grams heavier but eliminates the chance of the horn moving if it was attached with a single bolt.



DWhorn12 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr



DWhorn13 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


DWhorn14 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


DWhorna10 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
 
DW horn a5 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


DW horn a1 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


DW horn a3 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


DW horn a4 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr



Bracket is now ready for paint and those bolts in the pic are not the bolts that will be used for the finished bracket.

My estimate of 246 grams for the new horn and bracket were a bit off.

I just noticed in the 2nd last pic the outer edge of the bracket can be trimmed to match the cowl bracket.
 
Last edited:
Trimmed the outer edge and hogged out the bracket to match the cowl bracket hole. Bonus - 1 gram lighter. 1 gram doesn't sound like much but it is the percentage removed from each part that adds up to the weight reduction overall. In this case 1 gram is just under an 8% reduction in weight.

DWhorn18 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr



Bracket 1 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


bracket2 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
 
Last edited:
With the focus on shedding weight above all else unfortunately performance had to take a backseat on this build. However, with an improved power to weight ratio there will be some gain in performance. I think it would be a struggle for high nines or even 10's and 11's but whatever it could do would still be fun?

Remember that a box-stock 1983 11ES was the first bike that Cycle World got into the tens (just barely - 10.99). The difference was the 'bikini' fairing.

With a larger engine, and much less weight, your Kat should easily do mid tens. Unless, of course, you're a 500 pound fat slob or measure your self in kilograms, whatever those are. :eagerness:
 
Remember that a box-stock 1983 11ES was the first bike that Cycle World got into the tens (just barely - 10.99). The difference was the 'bikini' fairing.

With a larger engine, and much less weight, your Kat should easily do mid tens. Unless, of course, you're a 500 pound fat slob or measure your self in kilograms, whatever those are. :eagerness:

Kilograms - whatever those are. :biggrin-new:

I am 94 KG so a bit less than 500 lb, before Christmas and New Years anyway!
 
Back
Top