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I like the work Chuck does, I don't give a **** if he's loosing his shirt on a project he loves. Neither should anyone else.
And I'm done.
OK, after this, then I'm done.
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Would I be wrong to see this as a hobby? People spend time & money on a hobby without any thought on reward - other than personal enjoyment, and generally with minimal judgment.
Over the past 5 years I've been dabbling with retro/classic cars I've had no more than 3 at any time but have in total 5 passed through my hands. 1 was bought as a parts car to fix another, 1 ended up as a parts car when I worked out it was too far gone to save. Parts were used in the keeper cars or sold to fund the projects.
In total since 2013 I have spent ?14,723.33 (according to Google that's $19,378.02 in United States Dollars). I have put in many hours, and that's been my hobby. I have been able to use, enjoy and show the cars. Even winning a trophy along the way. That's my reward.
All have been sold now while I take a break, and I got back all of my investment plus ?849.57 profit, that works out ?169.91 ($223.63 USD) a year and doesn't take into account any payment for my time. So I won't be making a living from it but that's not why I did it. Most people buy, use and sell cars at a loss. That fact I've used these cars for my personal enjoyment basically for free sits fine with me.
Turdnado said "I'M AN AZZHOLE BLAH BLAH BLAH..."
Turdnado said "I'M AN AZZHOLE BLAH BLAH BLAH..."
"Turdnado" sums it up perfectly. Why is joker isn't banned here is a complete mystery. It's one thing to be narcissistic and only able to view the world from one perspective, but being abusive to others with a different point of view just outs oneself as a douche.
I hear you.I just like giving Chuck a hard time, simple as that, and the rest of you guys can fukk off. Pick your sides, but just know that there are MANY professional bike builders that understand my opinion and agree with it wholeheartedly. Shoot, we just had a good laugh about it on one of the Facebook GS pages a few days ago, some guys don't want to speak up and rile Chucks feathers on this site, but I really don't give a rat's ars. Ban me? ROTFLMAO! Yea, you do that. I see the crap that goes on in the Whoretex, the little feud Chuck and I have going on is peanuts compared to the manure pile in there. The fact is, he picks the absolute worst bikes to restore and goes on and on about them, and most people with ANY knowledge of vintage bikes wouldn't touch the $hit he dabbles in. Maybe you guys just feel sorry for him and like to make him think he is actually doing something worthwhile? I suggest you quit enabling him, for his own good. Doing bike "restos" and being happy about it is one thing, but to get on an internet forum and BRAG about losing money in the process is a complete joke. I'm trying to help Chuck out with some infinite wisdom, and it goes in one ear and out the other! Yes, I am independently wealthy but that is from working my a$$ off for 35 years in the I/T field and making money on EVERY SINGLE BIKE I HAVE EVER "restored". Close to a hundred bikes in the last 20 years last I counted. Why? Because I don't buy useless throwaway UJM's and sink WAY too much money into them. I buy bikes KNOWING what they are worth, and what I will be able to sell them for when they are complete. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but Chuck thinks he can. The real problem is that the GOOD, "collectible" project bikes that are out there are generally out of Chuck's price range, but sometimes, you gotta spend 5K on a bike to sell it for 10K and make a few grand. Buying one for $500 or less, putting $1500 into it and selling it for $2000 or LESS is just retarded, and that's not even counting labor. You'll lose money every time! Maybe we need to put together a list of bikes that people actually DO want and maybe we could help Chuck find one in his price range? You guys that tell him to "keep on keeping on" are really doing him a disservice. Think about it, what I'm saying is 100% TRUTH. Pick better bikes to restore, make some money on them, invest that money into getting more bikes. Heck, use it to pay your bills if it will help, but there's no hobby in the world I would enjoy if I were losing money doing it. I basically built a dozen bike collection doing this exact same thing over and over, I guess that kind of common sense is way over some of your guys heads. Make perfect sense to me.
I hear you.
Can you post a list of bikes worth restoring because people want to buy them?
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