bandit front end swap issue. need your advise.please

[Mario]

Hey all. I am in the middlw of my bandit suspension swap. the forks i bought seem to be from an 02 model 1200. the wheel i got from a 97. I bought brakes for a 97 and an 02. 4 piston nissin for the 97 and 6 piston tokico from an 02. The issue I am having is the caliper clearance. The nissin do not fit the rotor because they are too far inward, the rotor hits the out edge of the pad opening. the 6 pots seem to fit ok, no clearance issue against rotor, BUT, there is only maybe 1-2 mm clearance from the wheel spokes. picture attached. I know i should have gotten a complete front end, but have never been able to find one. Any help will greatly appreciated.

 

[posplayr]

The rotors will have to have more offset and the calipers will have to move accordingly. What are you missing from the bandit Triple clamp? Apparently a JohnKat has substituted a 2ng gen GSXR triple to make bandit forks work.

 

[Mario]

the triples came with the forks. as far as my research shows, they are correct. I swapped the stem from the original front end, that worked fine. I thinnk I have the wrong wheel.

 

[posplayr]

the triples came with the forks. as far as my research shows, they are correct. I swapped the stem from the original front end, that worked fine. I thinnk I have the wrong wheel.

I wonder if you know the rotors are for the bandit wheel or not? If the caliper and rotors are aligned (installed on fork), then either wrong wheel or wrong caliper.

 

[Mario]

how would i tell?

 

[posplayr]

how would i tell?

Use a brake rotor cross reference for offset, diameter and bolt pattern. EBC is one.

 

[Big Rich]

Metalgear in Australia is another site to check.

Mario, what is your current fork spacing? I know they changed that on the 01 and up Bandits. I originally put 02 forks in a first generation triple tree and the calipers didn't line up either.

When I get off work tomorrow I'll look at my Bandit front end and check spacing on everything.

 

[Mario]

where should I measure from?

 

[Big Rich]

The proper way is to measure the space in between the forks, then add the fork diameter (43mm in this case). That will get you the center-to-center spacing. But just the gap in between the forks works fine too.

 

[Big Rich]

Ok - just throwing a tape measure across everything, here's what I found.

01-05 GSF12 forks are 6.375" apart
Earlier GSF12 forks are 6.125" apart
And the rotors are 5.1875" apart measured from the outer surface on each one.

Hope that helps.

 

[Guest]

Ok - just throwing a tape measure across everything, here's what I found.

01-05 GSF12 forks are 6.375" apart
Earlier GSF12 forks are 6.125" apart
And the rotors are 5.1875" apart measured from the outer surface on each one.

Hope that helps.

Where did you get these figures I have both 1st and 2nd gen Bandit frontends and they measure the same The only difference I know of between the two are the brakes

 

[John Kat]

The rotors will have to have more offset and the calipers will have to move accordingly. What are you missing from the bandit Triple clamp? Apparently a JohnKat has substituted a 2ng gen GSXR triple to make bandit forks work.

In theory the Bandit 1200 disks all have the same offset of 19.5 mm according to Metalgear.
You could have GSXR 1100 disks that are a direct bolt-on except that their offset is 22 mm.
http://metalgear.com.au/mgear-brake-disc-front-gold-centre-p-11011.html

 

[posplayr]

In theory the Bandit 1200 disks all have the same offset of 19.5 mm according to Metalgear.
You could have GSXR 1100 disks that are a direct bolt-on except that their offset is 22 mm.
http://metalgear.com.au/mgear-brake-disc-front-gold-centre-p-11011.html

When you mixed bandit stantions with GSXR triple what wheel brake combination did you have to use?

 

[Big Rich]

Stetracer, that was measuring parts bought on eBay (I couldn't find a complete front end anywhere). The "early Bandit" measurement I listed above is from an RF900 triple tree......

Since you have both front ends available, how about posting any differences between two?

 

[Mario]

Ok - just throwing a tape measure across everything, here's what I found.

01-05 GSF12 forks are 6.375" apart
Earlier GSF12 forks are 6.125" apart
And the rotors are 5.1875" apart measured from the outer surface on each one.

Hope that helps.

I have the 6.125 forks (inside of tube to inside of tube) and the rotors are 5-1/16". I use english measurements

 

[Mario]

the calipers have this small edge of the material where the bolts mount. from my measurements, if I machine/grind this tab down, the 4 piston nissin's will fit. Should I machine, or grind these tabs. Proper machine shop not in my area that would bother with a small job like this.

 

[Mario]

The 6 pistons will also fit, but my bad horrible god forsaken years spent with the 6 pot Tokicos on my TL may be leary of using them. They look good, but can take half a gallon a brake fluid to bleed properly.

 

[Big Rich]

I wouldn't modify the calipers to fit. I think it would be best to figure out why they aren't fitting and solve that. Mario, what triple tree do you have? I know the early GSF12 lower tree has the pinch bolts on the side, while the later 1200's and the 1250's pinch bolts are inserted from the front.

 

[John Kat]

When you mixed bandit stantions with GSXR triple what wheel brake combination did you have to use?

At first I used a full GSXR 1100 front end ( wheel, disks, stantions and triples).
Later on, I changed the stantions for Bandit 1200 first generation.
It's important to use GSXR disks with GSXR wheels.

 

[Mario]

I wouldn't modify the calipers to fit. I think it would be best to figure out why they aren't fitting and solve that. Mario, what triple tree do you have? I know the early GSF12 lower tree has the pinch bolts on the side, while the later 1200's and the 1250's pinch bolts are inserted from the front.

I have the pinch bolts on the side.