Bicycling from CA. to MI. to pick up my 1982' GS450T then drive it back to CA.

[Redman]

Overcharging

Overcharging

Bill has emailed me and reports that he recieved the carb tee today and now the bike is a runner.
.... but is overcharging.

Below is what I have told him.
I will not be available for next few days..... so I post here for other folks to see what I asked him, and maybe other folks can follow up with him after he provides further info


QUOTE
Two Basic question:
- when you say overcharging, you mean something like 17-18 volts? or something like high 14s
- if the battery is a regular lead-acid battery is the fluid okay in every cell?


First question: Your r/r have 5 wires or 6 wires?
Is it that stock r/r having the three stator wires a positive output wire (red) and a negitive wire (black) for a total of 5 wires? If so check to see that the black wire is grounded on a good ground. If it is connected to solenoid mounting bolt on battery box, keep in mind that the battery box is not well grounded by its mounting so it needs to have a ground wire run to it to ground it, this is usally a blk/wht wire from the wiring harness. But somethimes that blk/wht wire gets removed, or even if it is there maybe the other end isnt really grounded. So check with meter to see that the R/R black wire is really grounded.... or as a test: run your own wire from that point to battery negitive and see if things work bettter/different. If your starter solenoid works then this is probaly not the problem since the solenoid uses that same ground.


Maybe the R/R has been replaced with a differnt type of R/R that has the three staor wires, the positive output (red), the negitive (black) and an additional (6th) wirre that is called a sence wire. THis sence wire needs to be connected to a hot wire that turns off with the key, if it is not connected to anything or has a bad connection then it senses low voltage and the r/r cranks up its output to the max.


If it is something like 16-17-18 volts, you will not want to run it like that. It will wreck the battery and burnout headlight and other bulbs for sure, and maybe ruin the ignitor too (and those are expensive).

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>>>opps, didnt see that he had posted here

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[rustybronco]

Bill is going to see if the gent he is staying with has a later Honda R/R that would work. I linked him Matchless's list. All is not lost yet. Plan B might have to take effect if he can't come up with one in his neck of the woods.

 

[LAB3]

That bike is exactly like mine right down to the color! That fairing looks good on there, been keeping my eye out for a mount for quite some time now. As the the weight, I'm about 210 these days and packing about 100 lbs of tools and gear. The weight itself isn't an issue, it's cross winds that are getting me. Monday and earlier today where both a PITA to ride in. That kind of load is going to be a handful on the interstate for you, when you think about it all you REALLY need is to do is keep the front wheel off the ground on the 125 and keep the fork locked straight with the frame to tow it. See the CC and Company pic I put up for inspiration on that end.

 

[gbw]

Ive been following this thread for awhile but after actually seeing pics of the trailer and bikes, Ive gotta say that this doesn't look like a really safe idea. I mean I give kudos for you doing all this, but I really wish you the best of luck.

I don't know much about this particular set up but I wouldn't worry about the actual towing part. The HF trailer is good, the hitch looks good. Not really sure about the bikes power and how well it'll pull, but there's a thread over on ADV rider of a guy towing a sail boat all over the US behind a Ulysses. Says having the boat/trailer on the back actually makes the cross winds easier than without.

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/the-ulysses-odyssey-to-homer.1288708/

 

[grcamna2]

I don't know much about this particular set up but I wouldn't worry about the actual towing part. The HF trailer is good, the hitch looks good. Not really sure about the bikes power and how well it'll pull, but there's a thread over on ADV rider of a guy towing a sail boat all over the US behind a Ulysses. Says having the boat/trailer on the back actually makes the cross winds easier than without.

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/the-ulysses-odyssey-to-homer.1288708/

Thanks for the encouragement,much appreciated

 

[Charlie G]

Both of those bikes look pretty nice. You sure are having an adventure. I'm sure you'll do fine

 

[grcamna2]

That bike is exactly like mine right down to the color! That fairing looks good on there, been keeping my eye out for a mount for quite some time now. As the the weight, I'm about 210 these days and packing about 100 lbs of tools and gear. The weight itself isn't an issue, it's cross winds that are getting me. Monday and earlier today where both a PITA to ride in. That kind of load is going to be a handful on the interstate for you, when you think about it all you REALLY need is to do is keep the front wheel off the ground on the 125 and keep the fork locked straight with the frame to tow it. See the CC and Company pic I put up for inspiration on that end.

Rustybronco welded a bracket onto this Quicksilver bracket which came off another bike, I'm looking for a specific GS450 bracket too. I was watching a full Quicksilver fairing with mount bracket on EBay which finally sold, would have liked to buy just the bracket..

 

[grcamna2]

I really want to leave today, the bike is running good except for needing a good regulator. The trailer and hitch are all set, I'm ready to get on the road to head West.

 

[grcamna2]

Bill is going to see if the gent he is staying with has a later Honda R/R that would work. I linked him Matchless's list. All is not lost yet. Plan B might have to take effect if he can't come up with one in his neck of the woods.

I looked/asked here at 'Dan's back yard garage and part-em-out shop' and he doesn't have one. This is the stock regulator #RS 2142,I think it's the original one from when the bike was new in 1982.

 

[grcamna2]

Both of those bikes look pretty nice. You sure are having an adventure. I'm sure you'll do fine

Thank you,
This has been great getting out of the apartment back home.The challenge has been doing all this on 800 a month SS, but so far it's been OK.

 

[LAB3]

That advrider link brings back some memories, about 30 yrs ago I ran into a guy pulling a rig much like that one behind his HD dresser.

 

[grcamna2]

Mista M came by today and helped me again !
I now have my charging system running good and plan to pull out tomorrow morning early.

 

[Redman]

.....
I now have my charging system running good and plan to pull out tomorrow morning early.

Good.
was a 3 week effort.
what was the fix on the charging system...? The r/r?

 

[grcamna2]

Yes, I replaced the R/R and now it's between 14.5-13.3volts,it varies with load as normal.

 

[grcamna2]

When I originally spoke with Dan he told me he had tools... I wasn't prepared for the situation that I encountered.
This is a good GS450 and it still needs a valve adjustment and carburetor sync,very much in need of it. Dan doesn't understand if it has a tight valve or two and he doesn't even know what carburetor sync gauges are.. I need to get out of this situation right now and I will be rolling westbound on Interstate 80 tomorrow morning. Do any of you members along my route of Interstate 80 West have any valve adjustment tools or carburetor sync gauges I can borrow Right Where You Are?

 

[LAB3]

Here's how I do a carb sync: Get a piece of clear tubing the size of your vacuum fittings that go into the intakes, three feet or so should do. Put some water in the tube and make a half circle loop so the water sits in the bottom and put the ends into the vacuum fittings. Mark the water level on the tube with tape or whatever and fire up the bike. The water will go or down on each side depending on the pull from each carb, adjust accordingly.

 

[rustybronco]

I have both. If you are not leaving until tomorrow maybe we can check the valves and sync the carbs before you leave. I won't be available from mid-late afternoon forward.

 

[Mista M]

i wish i knew you needed carb gauges, i would have brought mine. what happened with finding a jacket?

 

[grcamna2]

I have both. If you are not leaving until tomorrow maybe we can check the valves and sync the carbs before you leave. I won't be available from mid-late afternoon forward.

Dale,
I will try to reach you by phone. I have a new gasket, but my shims and shim tool were taken back in NV.

 

[rustybronco]

Here she is in all her glory.