My saga here with my 80 gs 1000 is now coming to a close.I give up.I had the timing right,i just went out and redid the cam chain tensioner,i relubed all the cam jounals,retorqued the cam bolts and when i loosened the caps of course the motor jumped out of time.I give up.I am postin it for sale.I am not spending any more time or money,i am about to push it beside my house with a tarp on it.Someon please buy it from me.I have 2400 in it now.I will take 550 or best offer.9490686-5736.home email crusierlover02@aol.com
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I give up!
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tconroy
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Ron,Dont give up now!!! Your so close.Take a week off and dont even look at it.Gather your thoughts and go at it with a different frame of mind.Dont sell it cause you will regret it in the future.
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KnuckleBuster
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Please don't sell your bike out of disgust or frustration. It may seem like the biggest pain in the rearend right now, but when you do get it going, every ride will be that much sweeter. I've almost washed my hands of my bike a couple of times, but I sat back and thought how much I'd miss it. Despite all the time, money, parts, and disappointments, it's MY bike I feel like I've built it and would really miss it if it were gone.
Take a break from it, let the smoke clear and get back to it when you're ready!
Good luck,
Jay
Take a break from it, let the smoke clear and get back to it when you're ready!
Good luck,
Jay
Ron, don't sell it. Take a break and freshen your mind of all the clutter.
It will be sweeter when you finally complete the re-build and you're riding it again.
It's easy to get the cams re-timed, just take a break and the world will be good again.
Hang in their Ron.
Ian
Now that you've taken it apart so many times you will find that timing the beast is fairly easy. 
You might want to try the "vise grips on the camshaft trick" to hold the cam down while bolting down the caps. If at first you don't succeed...
You might want to try the "vise grips on the camshaft trick" to hold the cam down while bolting down the caps. If at first you don't succeed...
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tconroy
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Is there anybody on here who lives close enough to help this guy out????No one wants to see him part with his bike and it's obvious he is frustrated.I have also felt this way a month ago but it would be like losing an old friend in anger.Hang in there Ron!
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Where does he live?
I was wondering the same thing. The area code seems to be Orange County -- Laguna Beach or Irvine or the like. I'm basing that on 949 as the area code.
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Killer2600
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Well I'm too far away to help (5 hrs by air) but I will say don't give up Ron, we're all rooting for you. It may seem like a never ending battle that your not winning but once you get it running all the sweat and tears you put in to it will make you just that much more excited to see it running.
Thanks guys,but let me respond.The timing is easy to get back in correct position,believe me i could do that in my sleep almost now.That is not the problem.The problem is i put the whold thing back together correctly,I know i did.There arent any ways to put it back together if you follow directions.Cam caps abcd,match them to abcd on the motor.Timing marks,crank trigger,cam tensioner set right,there is no reason the motor shouldnt turn over freely,even real fast, but it doesnt.If i turn it over by wrench it turns over with a considerable resistance but i figured that was because the cam journal go up and down and each time they compress a tappet I should expect resistance.My area code is 940,not 949.I live in Texas,about 60 miles from dallas,250 miles from austin,175 miles to oklahoma city,about 400 to kansas,350 from shreveport,4000 from sidney austrailia.I had a yamaha venture i had 4400 dollars in one time that i couldnt ever get to run right, i even had a mechanic say"I dont know what it is".I gave that bike to a guy just so I wouldn feel the pain any more.Biking is in my blood.It is very important to me.Even if I dont ride and my bike just sits in the driveway there is some sense of satisfaction just knowing it is sitting there.Stupid maybe,but thats me.But I feel the Gs guys like you all are practically family now.I have really sensed some feelings of friendship with this site.You know the GS 1000 is better than a kz 900, cb 750, and most modern day cruisers.Oh well.
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Killer2600
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I'm 1,216 miles away from ron so you can count me out.
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Where does Hap live? Maybe he could help. Sometimes just another set of eyes makes a big difference.
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80GS750
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dont give up man. i bought my 750 for 250 and i have put about 200 in it in the last month and a half and i am a long way from even hearing it run for the first time. i need a new ignition, tires, tubes, and exhaust. shes just been sitting there since i bought it, waiting for me to get her back together and fired up. i cant wait
it will come. it just takes a lot of time and patience, and hard work.
it will come. it just takes a lot of time and patience, and hard work.
Hey Ron - don't give up just yet man.
I've got an 84 GS 750 that I picked up for not too much many months ago and i'm slowly (and I mean slowly) working my way through everything) - now working on the charging system (surprise surprise) and this list (specifically Hap Cal) have been a tremendous help in walking my way through this. I'm far from being done yet but I'll get it done.
I'm also helping my son work on his car as well. When I'm done the bike and my son's car there is a deck hanging from the rear of my house that needs total redoing, and then ....................arrrgghh, think I'll stop there while I think I'm still ahead.
Frustration is always there to stop you dead in your tracks. Know how to take a step back and let it be for a bit. Leave it alone, go away. Go do something totally different and don't come back to the problem till you're good and ready. You'll know when you are.
If it works for a putz like me it'll work for you.
Walk away for a while and come back to it primed and ready. It will work.
I've got an 84 GS 750 that I picked up for not too much many months ago and i'm slowly (and I mean slowly) working my way through everything) - now working on the charging system (surprise surprise) and this list (specifically Hap Cal) have been a tremendous help in walking my way through this. I'm far from being done yet but I'll get it done.
I'm also helping my son work on his car as well. When I'm done the bike and my son's car there is a deck hanging from the rear of my house that needs total redoing, and then ....................arrrgghh, think I'll stop there while I think I'm still ahead.
Frustration is always there to stop you dead in your tracks. Know how to take a step back and let it be for a bit. Leave it alone, go away. Go do something totally different and don't come back to the problem till you're good and ready. You'll know when you are.
If it works for a putz like me it'll work for you.
Walk away for a while and come back to it primed and ready. It will work.
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Suzuki mad
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Ron, I bought a GS(X)1100ESD with an 1168 wiseco big bore kit, pods and a dyno jet state 1 tune for £700 ($1400) here in the UK back in 2005 from Eb*y. Looked good till it arrived home.
Took two months to get safe to go on the UK roads even thought it have a UK MOT test ticket then I rode it for three months before deciding that I had to do the work that was needed. It drank 1ltr of oil every 100miles, whines worse than the guy posting recently and won't pull the skin off a banana.
I stripped the rocker box off to find exhaust camshaft lobes had failed as well as cam followers. Plus the whine was from the gearbox.
Took 5 months and £5500 ($11000) to get it back to standard and now runs like a dream.
When the engine went back together I feared that it wouldn't go. After priming the carbs and a new battery second go she fired into life. What an amazing feeling.
If I could afford the plane trip from the UK I would be knocking on your door to help fix the old girl. (I probably wouldn't be allowed into the US with my passport!)
You stripped her down to the base gasket then there should be is no binding her up from the bottom end. There is a chance that if you put new rings in one has not gone in right. Cam chain guides back in correct, front one in place no problems. New head gasket and head back on yep. Front cam shaft in with engine on timing marks. Count 20 pins and line back cam shaft up. Bolt it all down. Seems a little high as the lobes of the shaft need to push the open valves down. Oil into the sockets, chain tensioner on and set, rocker box on. Engine done.
With new rings she will be a little tight. If the battery is not sound then that will make her not turn over well and cause a poor spark.
You have done nothing wrong. There's a simple explanation.
DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE VOICE'S IN YOUR HEAD. YOU CAN SOLVE THIS.
Walk away from it for a few days then go back over it. When I timed my GS(X) up it took 4 goes.
PM me.
Suzuki mad
Took two months to get safe to go on the UK roads even thought it have a UK MOT test ticket then I rode it for three months before deciding that I had to do the work that was needed. It drank 1ltr of oil every 100miles, whines worse than the guy posting recently and won't pull the skin off a banana.
I stripped the rocker box off to find exhaust camshaft lobes had failed as well as cam followers. Plus the whine was from the gearbox.
Took 5 months and £5500 ($11000) to get it back to standard and now runs like a dream.
When the engine went back together I feared that it wouldn't go. After priming the carbs and a new battery second go she fired into life. What an amazing feeling.
If I could afford the plane trip from the UK I would be knocking on your door to help fix the old girl. (I probably wouldn't be allowed into the US with my passport!)
You stripped her down to the base gasket then there should be is no binding her up from the bottom end. There is a chance that if you put new rings in one has not gone in right. Cam chain guides back in correct, front one in place no problems. New head gasket and head back on yep. Front cam shaft in with engine on timing marks. Count 20 pins and line back cam shaft up. Bolt it all down. Seems a little high as the lobes of the shaft need to push the open valves down. Oil into the sockets, chain tensioner on and set, rocker box on. Engine done.
With new rings she will be a little tight. If the battery is not sound then that will make her not turn over well and cause a poor spark.
You have done nothing wrong. There's a simple explanation.
DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE VOICE'S IN YOUR HEAD. YOU CAN SOLVE THIS.
Walk away from it for a few days then go back over it. When I timed my GS(X) up it took 4 goes.
PM me.
Suzuki mad
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Chris Bohane
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Ron
Give it a week before you offer the bike for sale.
Then, before you place the add give it one more try!!!
If that fails you know that you have tried.
My GS850 caught fire just as I tried to start her after a rebuild....I thought that I had had enough then, BUT, a few days of cleaning all the fire extinguisher powder of her got me back into the groove.
Now she's running again it makes it all worth while.
Regards,
Chris
Give it a week before you offer the bike for sale.
Then, before you place the add give it one more try!!!
If that fails you know that you have tried.
My GS850 caught fire just as I tried to start her after a rebuild....I thought that I had had enough then, BUT, a few days of cleaning all the fire extinguisher powder of her got me back into the groove.
Now she's running again it makes it all worth while.
Regards,
Chris
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tconroy
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And the plugs are out ,right? I know, that was a stupid question but thats about all the knowledge I can help with.Where's the GS guru's on here! Come on guy's!!!