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Jd Powell
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any one ever convert a 1000 or 1100 to kickstart? do the 1000 /1100 cases even have the machining for the kicker?
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SqDancerLynn1
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The cases were redesigned when the did away with the kickstart
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aosmith
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i can't imagine it would be very easy to kick start a 1000cc bike
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t3rmin
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My 650 still had a hole in the case (internally) for the kickstart. The clutch cover didn't, though. I always wondered if you could get another cover and bolt a kicker on there. Can't remember if my 750 has that.
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80GS750
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my 750 and all 3 of my 1000's dont have anything for a kickstart...
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txironhead
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Was there ever a 750 kicker? If there's still a hole on the inside, and a cover could be swapped or machined, I'd love to have a dual start.
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Jd Powell
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So do the 750 and 1000 share the same cases? could a set of 78' 750g (or 850g) cases be mated to an 80' 1000g topend? 1000cc fours are dead easy to kick.... for fun try kicking an oldklr 650single.....thats another story.
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Tom MLC
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My '78 GS750 had both a kicker & electric starter. But it was a Japanese domestic model. I bought it new when I was stationed there.
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8trackmind
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79 850 has a kick and the same type clutch cover as a 1000. I have no idea if it would work, but it looks like a good place to start
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Jd Powell
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nice, I belive more research is in order. but it looks like we are dealing with quite similar powerplant. I'll see what else I can find out.
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8trackmind
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Keep us posted.
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Grandpa
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I had a 79 GS850G 10 years ago; it had a kickstart. In the two riding seasons I rode it, I must have used the kickstarter maybe once, just to feel what it was like.
It wasn't pleasant. One throw of the kickstarter would move the crank only a little bit, and then not very fast.
I used the old reliable electric start. It worked every time. That's because I kept the bike in top condition at all times.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to kickstart a bike with a four-cylinder liter engine. To each his own, I guess...:-s
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t3rmin
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Dead battery?
My father-in-law has a first gen 750 with a kickstart and when he gets a dead battery kicking it over is much easier than jumping it or bumping it. Starts easy-as-pie with the kicker, too.
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Billyboy
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The GS1000 mill is ten punds lighter that the 750 it's based on. The loss of the kick apporatus is largely responsible for that.
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Grandpa
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I haven't had a dead battery on any of my GS bikes in 20 years. That's not because I'm lucky, but because I've maintained all my GS bikes religiously. I replace the battery every 2 years, whether it needs it or not. I check connections regularly and clean them. I also ride often and for long rides. When not riding for any length of time, the Battery Tender is connected.
The likelihood of a dead battery on a well-maintained motorcycle, one that is ridden regularly, is miniscule.
You say, "when he gets a dead battery..." That means your father-in-law gets dead batteries fairly often. That's inexcusable.
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Mine started easy with a bump the day my clutch switch was bad.
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t3rmin
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He takes reasonably good care of his motorcycles, but has a questionable battery at the moment. Honestly I'm pretty sure the sky won't fall because of it, but perhaps. He's been warned about the strain it's putting on his charging system, and I'm sure it'll be replaced soon.
Occasional dead batteries are a reality for any vehicle. When it happens, a kick start is handy.
Plus I must admit hopping on a bike and giving it a good kick is quite gratifying. I've always wished my GSs had kickers. Some day I'd like to build a cafe racer minus electric start so it has to be kicked each and every time. It's a novelty. As you said, to each his own.
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Grandpa
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Do what many GS riders do: Bypass the clutch switch altogether.
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Grandpa
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Occasional dead batteries are mostly preventable, much more so than people think.
I'm glad you've warned your father about the strain on the charging system. He's a candidate for a new stator and/or reg-rect if he continues running on a bad battery.
I can tell you're young, by the way you find that kickstarting a four-cylinder motorcycle, (with all that compression, camshafts, chain, etc.), is "gratifying". Gratifying to me is punching the starter button on my GK and hearing and feeling the engine instantly coming to life, every time without fail. I had enough of kickstarting, 37 years ago.
You must have a hand crank on your car, eh? :-D
