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My first oil change isn't going to be cheap

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Here is my shopping list. Anything I'm missing?

  • Oil Pan (15qt)
  • Oil Filter w/ O ring
  • 3 qts of 15w40 diesel engine oil
  • 20mm 6 pt 1/4in socket
  • Shop Rags
  • Transmission Cover Gasket
  • Simply Green degreaser/cleaner
  • nitrile gloves

I'm removing the transmission cover so I can clean the oil lens. I'm pretty sure it's grimed up and I want to make sure I don't run her low.

Many of these items obviously I wont have to buy every time. My shop isn't, yet, equipped. I'm about 99% sure that my drain plug is 20mm. My 19mm didnt fit and of course that's as large as I have.

The total comes to about $80. With the exception of the gasket (unless the local dealer has it in inventory) I can get all locally.
 
Once you have bought the tools, you have them. Next time it'll be cheaper. ;)
 
Q tip for the oil lens, if it's not gone yellow from heat and age, it will clean up nicely, mine did....

use old T shirts for shop rags
use soap and water to clean your hands, instead of the nitrile gloves

but those both only save you a few bucks, so you might as well buy them,,,I usually buy the nitrile gloves in bulk, box of 100, can last a very long time
 
1/4" drive socket is no good. You will need a 3/8" or 1/2" ratchet and socket to take the drain bolt out.

You will need 4 quarts of oil (one gallon).
 
GateKeeper said:
Q tip for the oil lens, if it's not gone yellow from heat and age, it will clean up nicely, mine did....
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Yea, I think it's just oil gunk, not yellowing. We'll see.

I usually buy the nitrile gloves in bulk, box of 100, can last a very long time
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Yea, the box of 100 is $15 and they'll come in handy for lots of projects.
 
MAJikMARCer said:
I'm about 99% sure that my drain plug is 20mm. My 19mm didnt fit and of course that's as large as I have.
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A 13/16" spark plug socket will work...most everyone has one of those.
Or any 13/16" socket or wrench...
 
Nessism said:
1/4" drive socket is no good. You will need a 3/8" or 1/2" ratchet and socket to take the drain bolt out.

You will need 4 quarts of oil (one gallon).
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Ah yes, the 1/2". I didnt change that on my list when I wrote it up.

As for 4 qts vs 3. The service manual said it would only need about 2.6L (which is still less than 3 qts). Is there something I'm missing?
 
are you taking into account that you are putting in a fresh oil filter as well it will require more oil....

check your manual once again
 
MAJikMARCer said:
As for 4 qts vs 3. The service manual said it would only need about 2.6L (which is still less than 3 qts). Is there something I'm missing?
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If you change the oil filter at the same time as the oil it will take about 3.5 quarts.
 
My service manual says:

Oil Change: 2.4L / 2.5qt
Filter Change: 2.6L / 2.7qt
Overhaul Engine: 2.7L / 2.9qt
 
You don't need the o ring at every change either unless it's leaking.
 
OLDENUFF said:
You don't need the o ring at every change either unless it's leaking.
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It comes with the filter anyway, so might as well change it out. Not sure when it was last changed by the PO, so I'm being careful.
 
MAJikMARCer said:
It comes with the filter anyway, so might as well change it out. Not sure when it was last changed by the PO, so I'm being careful.
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A word of caution about the filter O-Ring. If the one you get in the mail is twisted and will not lay flat it will be a real bear to install in the filter cover. If you have this problem like I did, get some heavy duty grease, and use it to help the O-Ring stick to the cover.

Also be sure not to strip out the aluminum studs. They can be real pain. I've had my bike down for over a week to to complications and misfortunes due to an oil change gone terribly wrong. But now i know better... :rolleyes:

On my bike the oil plug is the same size socket as my spark plug socket. I think its a 21, but not sure off hand.

It's a simple operation, just take your time.
 
Tim Tom said:
On my bike the oil plug is the same size socket as my spark plug socket. I think its a 21, but not sure off hand.
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My spark plugs are 18mm. The oil plug definitely isn't 18mm. It's possible that it's not original. It wouldnt shock me.
 
Tim Tom said:
On my bike the oil plug is the same size socket as my spark plug socket. I think its a 21, but not sure off hand.

It's a simple operation, just take your time.
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It's the same on my bike too.
 
I usually buy the Rotella oil in the big jug (3.7 liter IIRC) from Auto Zone. It's a little cheaper that way.
 
So I stopped into ACE on the way back from lunch and they didn't even sell a 20mm socket. 19mm and then 21mm. A few of you mentioned 21mm. It's possible that my measurement was off.

I used an adjustable wrench, got it tight on the bolt, then measured that with a ruler (best I can do at this point). I measured 20mm, but it's very possible that it's 21mm. Anyone with a 650 who can confirm this? I don't doubt that the other engines very likely used the same size, but there is no telling.
 
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