Tips on installing Pingel please!

[Guest]

Got the Pingel 6211-CH single outlet & adapter coming for my 1980 GS1100E. Please let me know your experiences with installing it, as I'm a total noob.

1. Looks like I will need to enlarge the opening in the tank to fit Pingel in. Do I use Dremel tool or a file or other?

2. How do I clean out inside of the tank afterwards, just flush some fuel through it?

3. What to do with the vacuum hose, block it off at the top end or take it off & somehow block vacuum at the carbs?


Cheers and thank you!

 

[steve murdoch]

I thought the purpose of the adapter was so that you didn't have to monkey with the tank opening?

 

[alke46]

Agreed, I put a Pingle on my 1000E and the unit fit right up into the tank without alterations. The adapter plate makes sure of that plus it places the bolts in the proper position.

You will really have to train yourself to turn the valve off at least 1/4 mile from your destination.

As for the vacuum line, yes just get rid of it and put a rubber cap on the carb that the vacuum line goes to. You could also go the cheap way and just force an oversized bolt into the vacuum line just above the carb.

 

[Guest]

I thought the purpose of the adapter was so that you didn't have to monkey with the tank opening?

I was hoping so. Though watching youtube videos wasn't reaffirming, seems many tanks need that opening enlarged. Cheers!

 

[Guest]

Agreed, I put a Pingle on my 1000E and the unit fit right up into the tank without alterations. The adapter plate makes sure of that plus it places the bolts in the proper position.

You will really have to train yourself to turn the valve off at least 1/4 mile from your destination.

As for the vacuum line, yes just get rid of it and put a rubber cap on the carb that the vacuum line goes to. You could also go the cheap way and just force an oversized bolt into the vacuum line just above the carb.

Thanks for the tips, Larry. 1/4 mile sounds reasonable enough, and I'm a habitual creature so that's fine

 

[steve murdoch]

Have a Pingel petcock on a Honda for 15? years but it was a direct fit not requiring an adapter plate/nut.
I would contact Pingel directly about your particular tank.
With all their adapter options i am surprised that the tank would have to be altered.
http://www.pingelonline.com/prodcat/fuel-valve-adapters.asp

 

[rphillips]

Off topic maybe, but. It happens a lot, wondering why to go from a more modern vacuum (automatic), to a old school, manual (must remember) type? Nostalgia maybe? Also for orig. question, Dremel...yes. Flush with fuel...yes, Cap at carb...yes. Good luck.

 

[Carter Turk]

I recall having to enlarge the hole in my Kat gas tank to fit the long screened portion in the middle thru.
The adapter plate fit fine, but came with no gasket. Had to make one & use Three Bond 1211 to get it to seal.
It weeped w/o the Three Bond.

Also the shut off lever was too long, touching the cam cover on a 1150 motor.

Suppose I could have turned lever inward, but then it'd be difficult to switch to reserve on the fly.

I've since blown up the 1229 motor that encouraged me to provide more fuel flow than maybe a stock one could deliver.

It's currently on a stock motor 1150 that I took from my wife's bike. Guess the petcock is near 20 years old.

 

[Guest]

Have a Pingel petcock on a Honda for 15? years but it was a direct fit not requiring an adapter plate/nut.
I would contact Pingel directly about your particular tank.
With all their adapter options i am surprised that the tank would have to be altered.
http://www.pingelonline.com/prodcat/fuel-valve-adapters.asp

Hi Steve, That's the fuel tap Pingel recommends for my bike, based on their fitment chart. I also got the adapter that goes with it. Guess no big deal with little extra work, as long as I finally get proper fuel flow. I miss riding

 

[Guest]

Off topic maybe, but. It happens a lot, wondering why to go from a more modern vacuum (automatic), to a old school, manual (must remember) type? Nostalgia maybe? Also for orig. question, Dremel...yes. Flush with fuel...yes, Cap at carb...yes. Good luck.

Quite on the topic actually, I find vacuum lines not quite trustworthy when it comes to fuel delivery. Great tech, but it has it's downsides like anything else. Dependability is one of them, and I find humid air in particular to be affecting the operations largely.

 

[steve murdoch]

I sure do get that.
Winter is for fixing and summer is for riding.
Good luck.

 

[rphillips]

Thanks radek22. Hadn't heard that before.

 

[Guest]

I recall having to enlarge the hole in my Kat gas tank to fit the long screened portion in the middle thru.
The adapter plate fit fine, but came with no gasket. Had to make one & use Three Bond 1211 to get it to seal.
It weeped w/o the Three Bond.

Also the shut off lever was too long, touching the cam cover on a 1150 motor.

Suppose I could have turned lever inward, but then it'd be difficult to switch to reserve on the fly.

I've since blown up the 1229 motor that encouraged me to provide more fuel flow than maybe a stock one could deliver.

It's currently on a stock motor 1150 that I took from my wife's bike. Guess the petcock is near 20 years old.

Thank for the tips, Carter. I had the engine overheating from lean mixture for a bit, hope this will sort it out. Cheers!

 

[Guest]

Thanks radek22. Hadn't heard that before.

It's a forty year old fuel tap, can't expect much of it

 

[Guest]

I sure do get that.
Winter is for fixing and summer is for riding.
Good luck.

Cheers Steve! Rubber side down

 

[rphillips]

Naw radek, I'd just not heard of the GS fuel cocks not opening completely, they usually get rebuilt or replaced because they won't shut off completely. Hope this install is reasonably simple & corrects your problem.

 

[Guest]

Naw radek, I'd just not heard of the GS fuel cocks not opening completely, they usually get rebuilt or replaced because they won't shut off completely. Hope this install is reasonably simple & corrects your problem.

Mine won't start on PRI fuel tap setting for about 10-15 tries, then goes rodeo mode when I ride it. Really hope this will address the issue, riding season ain't long in Ontario.

 

[slayer61]

I bought the dual outlet for mine, but the setup is the same otherwise. I wasn't happy with the centered adaptor & bought the offset adaptor to suit my application.

I also had to file the tank opening to fit the screen inside the tank opening. I thought about rinsing the tank also, but my (smartassed) wife says

Why don't you just hold the file backwards & drag the metal filings out?

:applouse: :stupid:

 

[Guest]

I bought the dual outlet for mine, but the setup is the same otherwise. I wasn't happy with the centered adaptor & bought the offset adaptor to suit my application.

I also had to file the tank opening to fit the screen inside the tank opening. I thought about rinsing the tank also, but my (smartassed) wife says :applouse: :stupid:

Giving it a go tomorrow, really hope I won't need another adaptor :dread: Will file it out for sure, thanks for the tips!

 

[Guest]

Update on the Pingel fuel tap install - tap screen did not require filing to the tank opening. Went in smooth, entire procedure took much less than expected. It looks awesome, I might however have a small leak from the gasket so likely reinstall with sealant very soon. That fuel valve has a very heavy flow, when turned on with engine not running fuel drips from the carbs in seconds - haven't tested it running yet, hope it won't leak then. I totally get the "turn it off quarter mile before your destination" comment now. Thanks all for your help! Cheers!