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When do you expect ev bikes to become practical road bikes.

Well I have to admit I never saw this coming Hybrid cycles Ninja7.

I thought this will a waste of time but no, very promising, no range anxiety, non plugin, urban EV mode, and very quick, there's a lot of potential here. If Kawasaki is giving test rides to journalists can actual an production be far off? I may need to hold off buying a new bike I want to see how much $$$$ and when/if this Ninja7 will arrive.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tre...ead_Campaign&utm_term=Common Tread | Combined

Very Interesting.
 
I will have to finish reading this interesting article about this interesting bike later. When I got to "paddle shifters on left cluster" I had to stop. :(

'Paddle' shifters everywhere. When a neighbor offered to let me drive his new convertible Corvette, what was I going to do, say, "no thanks"?

And I suppose it's a good thing the electric Ninja even has a manual shift option. Next thing you know, there'll be paddle shifters on guitars. What's next? Dishwashers? Toilet seats? :(

I suspect they may soon try them on canoes .:rolleyes:
 
The hybrid Kawasaki seems to be real I came across another review, it appears there will be a naked version and a Ninja. 0-60 time is supposedly in litre bike range, impressive for a 450cc with ev boost. Depending on price it could be a great urban commuter.
 
The hybrid Kawasaki seems to be real I came across another review, it appears there will be a naked version and a Ninja. 0-60 time is supposedly in litre bike range, impressive for a 450cc with ev boost. Depending on price it could be a great urban commuter.

I find I have no interest in hybrids. One of my favorite reasons for owning an EV of any type, is the lack of ICE maintenance.
Learned that lesson with our EGO mower. No oil, no gas, no spark plugs or carburetors or air cleaners.

At my age, and how far I ride, a Zero SR/F or SR/S should work out nicely.

BTW...I found this "review" of the 2023 Zero SR/F worth reading due him riding it for a week around Chicago, in the winter.
Lots of little details I found interesting.

2023 Zero Motorcycles SR/F Long-Term Ride Review
 
I find I have no interest in hybrids. One of my favorite reasons for owning an EV of any type, is the lack of ICE maintenance.
Learned that lesson with our EGO mower. No oil, no gas, no spark plugs or carburetors or air cleaners.

At my age, and how far I ride, a Zero SR/F or SR/S should work out nicely.

BTW...I found this "review" of the 2023 Zero SR/F worth reading due him riding it for a week around Chicago, in the winter.
Lots of little details I found interesting.

2023 Zero Motorcycles SR/F Long-Term Ride Review

Fair enough it's personal choice. I don't mind maintenance and I'm waaay old, currently putting my 1150 back together after a engine rebuild and complete electrical update.

It's whatever fits your lifestyle I was looking for an urban ride capable of highway day trips, but it has to be cost effective I have no idea what price point the Kz7 will come in at.

The Zero is fine choice but the lack of charging infrastructure and charge time makes it a no go for my 300km+ day trips, and it cost more than I'm willing to part with.
 
Honda will be offering (not until 2025) an E scooter with two swappable batteries on board. This looks to be very close to what I had in mind for a daily errand runner. It would be charged by my home solar system meaning a great part if not most of my day to day transportation would happen free of both the gas station and the grid.

https://www.rideapart.com/news/695802/would-buy-honda-sce-2025/

If some level of standardization can be achieved I could see the swappable battery changing the whole paradigm of personal transportation. That of course is a big "IF".
 
I didn't see, or missed it in the article, 2 batt. on board. The way I read it one batt. at home charging while the other out discharging. Would figure that possible with any E bike... No doubt through evolution, the E bikes and autos will keep getting better and better until they're get to the point they're good enough for most everybody to get one, just hoping I'm still around when that time gets here.
 
Honda will be offering (not until 2025) an E scooter with two swappable batteries on board. This looks to be very close to what I had in mind for a daily errand runner. It would be charged by my home solar system meaning a great part if not most of my day to day transportation would happen free of both the gas station and the grid.

https://www.rideapart.com/news/695802/would-buy-honda-sce-2025/

If some level of standardization can be achieved I could see the swappable battery changing the whole paradigm of personal transportation. That of course is a big "IF".
It's already underway in Japan and likely all of SE Asia soon.

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesoci...maha-suzuki-eneos-gachaco-swappable-batteries

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/04/10/business/tech/ev-battery-swap-asia-adoption/
 
I didn't see, or missed it in the article, 2 batt. on board. The way I read it one batt. at home charging while the other out discharging. Would figure that possible with any E bike... No doubt through evolution, the E bikes and autos will keep getting better and better until they're get to the point they're good enough for most everybody to get one, just hoping I'm still around when that time gets here.

E scooters you can have now. Truly worry free ev motorcycles I think will come with solid state batteries and an improved infrastructure. Hybrids could fill that transitional gap.
 
Not sure I read this right. 630 km (391 mi.) pr. month for a monthly subscription price of $ 849. The idea of all the bike batt. being interchangeable will make it much easier. Not sure about the stopping every 40 mi. though. Change a batt in only a minute sounds really good,...No doubt evolution coming alongand will get there.
 
Not sure I read this right. 630 km (391 mi.) pr. month for a monthly subscription price of $ 849. The idea of all the bike batt. being interchangeable will make it much easier. Not sure about the stopping every 40 mi. though. Change a batt in only a minute sounds really good,...No doubt evolution coming alongand will get there.

$849 Taiwanese dollars. About $28 USD.

I don't think battery swapping will ever take off for cars or regular, full size motorcycles, but for scooters, e-bicycles and small motorcycles it makes some sense.
 
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Not sure I read this right. 630 km (391 mi.) pr. month for a monthly subscription price of $ 849. The idea of all the bike batt. being interchangeable will make it much easier. Not sure about the stopping every 40 mi. though. Change a batt in only a minute sounds really good,...No doubt evolution coming alongand will get there.

40 mi range would easily take me to my work and back without recharge. A longer commute is possible if you can pop the battery out and recharge where you work.
 
Yes, I've thought for yrs, for anybody working within 20 or 30 mi. of their work, any EV auto or bike would be a great idea. Also wondered why, living within 20 mi. of 5 towns where many local folks work, nobody I know have dove in to trying an EV yet. No doubt we'll eventually get there.
 
I don't think battery swapping will ever take off for cars or regular, full size motorcycles, but for scooters, e-bicycles and small motorcycles it makes some sense.

Certainly true with today's battery technology. It will be interesting to see what options are presented as energy densities increase over time. But even if they achieve the density of gasoline the problem with cars and trucks would be how do you do the actual swap. You certainly could not just carry a battery of that size over and slide it into a slot.

One thing I could see happening is EV cars coming with an auxiliary slot to accept a smaller standardized battery or two that could be carried on board or delivered by a service truck that would be enough to get you the next charging station or at least off the freeway.
 
Certainly true with today's battery technology. It will be interesting to see what options are presented as energy densities increase over time. But even if they achieve the density of gasoline the problem with cars and trucks would be how do you do the actual swap. You certainly could not just carry a battery of that size over and slide it into a slot.

One thing I could see happening is EV cars coming with an auxiliary slot to accept a smaller standardized battery or two that could be carried on board or delivered by a service truck that would be enough to get you the next charging station or at least off the freeway.

Already being done in China ......
https://www.scmp.com/video/scmp-ori...battery-swap-stations-can-change-ev-batteries
 
Technological developments are happening at an amazing pace. Nio I believe is the same company that claims it has Solid State coming very soon.
 

Yes, I knew this could be done but I am not at all certain it works at scale. Batteries in every vehicle would have to be mounted and connected in a specific way to match up with the swapper. Would that level of standardization even be possible much less likely across all makes and models of vehicles? Much easier to standardize or adapt a charging port. And It is a whole different operation than simply selecting a battery off the charge rack as is possible with the small vehicles.

Expense would seem to me the biggest impediment. The swap stations obviously cost a lot more than charging stations to build and take up a lot more real estate and would need to store a large inventory of batteries on site. I am glad to see these kind of innovations being tried and implemented but it is hard to see it widely replacing the gas pump model now entrenched in our vehicle use globally.

All that said we don't know how advancing technology is going to change what makes sense and what no longer does. We only know that it will. It's fun to watch.
 
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