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1983 GS1100ES Engine Rebuild.

niclpnut

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Well, my winter project is well underway and progressing fairly well, taking into consideration work, kids, and all the other joys of life that keep us out of the garage...

I'm the proud owner of two 83 GS1100s.

My first is a 1100E with a little over 32k on the clock. It's stock with the exception of a sprocket conversion and a 4-1 kerker.

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My Second is the 1100ES blue/white paint scheme with a little over 19k on the clock. Upgrades included, a 4-1 exhaust, stainless break lines, sprocket conversion, and jet kit with pod filters.

It's standing bare at the moment in my single car garage.

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Initially, I was not planning on doing a total rebuild on the engine, however, I soon realized that i had a significant issue that needed to be addressed. I was originally planning on only removing the head and cylinder jugs to repair a nasty base gasket leak on the back side of the engine around cylinder 3/4. It did run great, with compression over all was good with cylinder 4 being slightly lower.

After removing the cylinders and cleaning up around the leak area i noticed some fine cracks along the webbing between cylinders 3 and 4.

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The cracks spiderwebbed all the way down and there was noticeable movement. Additionally, when i was removing the sump and the strainer I found some fine metal shavings. The source of which was from a bolt of the incorrect length in the clutch cover that was rubbing and shearing on the clutch hub. (PO had the basket welded and I'm assuming that reassembly didn't go quit right.)

After consulting with a few friends and a great shop out my way, I determined that the only thing to do was to get new cases.

Many people would probably scrapped the project at this point and ebay'd/listed a part out, but I was always a bit more heard headed than most...not to mention I LOVE to see these gorgeous bikes out on the road.

Anywho, thanks to Fred over at Sky Cycles I was able to acquire a solid and clean set of cases which i further power washed/ brushed/ sanded as I am planning to bring the engine back to its OEM black glory upon reassembly.

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I really enjoy doing these things by hand however sometimes i wish i had some better tools/equipment to really take the job to the next level. However, I'm happy with the outcome so far.

Currently, I'm awaiting some miscellaneous parts to continue on.

Things I've finished are:

1. Honed cylinders. Cleaned up nicely with good 45 degree crosshatching.

2. Pistons: Good shape, and cleaned up nicely, with new rings installed.

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3. Lower and Upper Crankcase components installed including new cam chain:

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Just waiting on new crank shaft oil seal, OEM O-rings, and gearbox plugs, then I should be ready to seal it up.

Things still on the list:

1. Going to be tackling the head next couple of days. Supposedly it had a valve adjustment done shortly before purchase, however i want to check guides, change seals, check retainers/springs/lap valves/etc... while I'm in there.
2. Rebuild clutch. The springs on the old hub were shimmed to prevent clutch rattle, then welded for strength. However, couple shims have some play and I've got a HD APE clutch kit so I think I'll be purchasing a new (used) hub to rebuild to go with the kit.


3. Reassembly and Paint.

WISH LIST:

1.GSXR suspension conversion.



I really envy some of you guys...A quick pick of my cluttered "work station," in my single car (or as the case may be duo bike) garage, located on the top of my portable table saw. And you might even be able to spot the every reliable and handy milk crates which are great stands and parts catches :).

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I'll fill ya'll in on the rest of the project as it continues.

Just wanted to give a quick thanks to all of you on the site. I don't ever really post and only recently joined as a member on GSR, however I've been reading as an anonymous guest for quite some time and am thankful for all the knowledgeable and helpful people here on the forums!

Cheers and wish me luck. :D

Nic
 
Looks great Nic.

Thanks for taking the time and posting all the photos!:D
 
"the grass is always greener" I'd kill for a single car garage sir:lol:


My little shed is driving me nuts......
 
Great work so far, I will be following your thread. When you have more room in a garage, you find more things to put in there!
 
Still trying to track down 750 drive/driven gears. Think I might have found some on the Bay.

OEM suzuki gaskets are begining to arive. They can get expensive, but I've been getting lucky finding them here and there for significantly less than simply ordering from bikebandit. I am using a Cometic base gasket set, as I've had good results with them in the past. But, everything above the cases (and internal plastics/rubbers) are all OEM.

I even purchased a top end kit from Athena Gaskets to make a comparison on the quality between OEM. Needless to say the OEM gaskets do look to be more soundly made with better material, and while they may be more expensive, I highly recomend that they be used over any of the Kits out there.

Also, having a Suzuki manual is invaluable for the detailed information it provides. I also have a Haynes but it is mysteriously oblique in certain areas, and at times ommiting important installation information. Thanks to Basscliff for having those manuals readlily available on his homepage. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/

More to come!


Nic
 
Finishing up the clean up on the cylinders.

Base Gasket was a pain. Will clean/prep for paint/lube tomorrow.

Still gotta get the darn cylinder ring gaskets out some how. Fused into the gap.

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Sprayed down the cylinder walls with WD for now.
 
I've got a set already out.83 GS750
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You are talking oil pump gears right?


Correct.

However, I needed the gears from a 77-82. Tooth count: 38 drive, 29 driven for higher output.

Found them at a local salvage for $25. :dancing:
 
I use a green scotch-brite pad on the gasket residue. Mixed with a small amount of WD-40 it gets the job done.
 
OK the guy I was going to sell them to is looking a the wrong parts to:eek::D:(
 
Got the cylinders cleaned up and lubed.

Honed.

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Gasket surfaces cleaned. Residue scoured off with 3m pad.

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Base gasket was a pain. Slipped once and made a very shallow groove.

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:mad:

Head next...

Nic
 
Getting ready to close the cases.

Using the old case to organize the bolts...

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While I was picking up and reorganizing i took a closer look at my cams:

Exhaust:
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Some grooving/wear on lobe:

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Enough to warrant purchasing a new set or upgrade?



Nic
 
I'd say that lobe looks pretty bad. It will run but at the same time it will eat rockers like no tomorrow if the valve clearance it too tight.

If it's a stock cam, I'd change it. They don't cost much second hand.
 
Well, I had a day off today so I went on a trek to find a space heater for my garage, and painting supplies.

My setup :lol:

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I had debated on how I wanted to paint the cases, but two factors ( kids that like to "help" daddy build the engine, and limited space) directed me to close the cases, and bolt on the covers.

Used Threebond 1194 for the case sealing. All new plastics/rubbers used.

With covers on, taping and final wipe down before painting.

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Using this:

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First Coat:

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Third, and a bit more heavy coat:

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Seems to be turning out nicely. Keeping a fine bristle brush close in case of a runner.

Underbelly tomorrow after work.


Nic
 
Think I might pick up a high temp clear coat to top everything off. Paint looks good, but doesnt have quite the sheen or DEEP black color as the suzuki stock black.

Hopefully the clear coat will give it just a touch more sheen and also offer some protection when cleaning in the future.

Nic
 
After looking at the satin finish from the PJ1 paint for a couple days, I went back to Alter Ego Cycles and picked up a few cans of PJ1 Gloss.

I wasn't satisfied with the satin...The finish was a bit more grey than i wanted and lacked the luster of factory.

After buffing I refinished with 2 gloss coats and I have to say, I'm quite happy with the finish...Not too flashy but with just the right amount of a glisten.

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Today, I finished installing the clutch:

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My OEM fibers and plates looked great so I decided to reinstall them. I encountered a bit of confusion when I was reinstalling as my package included 10 fibers, and 11 plates (including the plate behind the piano wire). After sorting through numerous threads I was able to identify that the 83 clutch offered an additional fiber and plate to compensate for the added torque.

Also, the added washer included in the assembly threw me for a loop. Typically I write down or document every step of disassembly, however I neglected to do so for the clutch, and my manuals were of no assistance, lacking to mention this "mystery" spacer/washer.

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However, following Posplayr's refab and further clutch rehab I'm still slightly confused. Does the washer go just behind the pump gear or does it line up behind the larger washer and seat against the bearing? PM sent :-k

I went ahead and installed the washer behind #2 in the blowup as I seem to recall that is how rapidray said it was done.

Installed ignition plate:

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It is the stock ignition...however I've encountered some good deals on Dynatech items...what is the advantage to using them as opposed to OEM that seem to work fine?

Piston's/Cylinders are next. I don't have any ring compressors and am considering trying to use my fingers to "pinch" them in.


I'll let ya'll know how that goes tomorrow..

Cheers,

Nic
 
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She's coming along very well! :)
I can only dream that mine will be looking that good someday...

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Daniel :(
 
It's just a matter of patience and time. Finding the courage to open things up is the hardest step. The rest depends on determination, resourcefulness and the almighty $ being the unfortunate deal breaker.

Nic
 
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