Got rubber plugs over each pilot jet?? that will make the carbs suck too much fuel and do the same as an over choked condition.
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myown550
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Yes sir brand new ones. I have fully done the carbs by the book. I changed all o'rings and soaked them more than 5 times. They are spotless. The one thing i would like to mention is the new float needles that i purchased are somewhat longer than the original ones that were in there, meaning when they sit the top sticks out a bit more making the floats sit higher. So that being said in order to adjust the floats i had to raise the thingy quite a bit. They are however set properly but would something like that give me problems?
Yes..the longer float needles means that the stock float height settings are null and void. So what was wrong with the OEM ones? what you need to do is either out the OEM ones back in, or measure the two and find out what the diffence is. Since the NEW ones are longer, that means that float height is now gonna be LESS that the stock setting. I say have Steve come over and help you with the math. He will have it going in just a short time.. Now we are getting to the real problem with the carbs!!! you switched up float needles..
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myown550
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Yes the new ones are slighlty longer, but the guy at the dealer told me they work on 550, 650, 750 and 850. My original ones were shorter but the spring thingy was longer, these new ones are just longer with a shorter spring but when i put them next to each other you can tell right away the new one is longer.
Steve i will keep you informed if i dont get it running soon i'll let you know. I really am hoping to do this myself.
If i was there helping you. I would put the originals in, recheck the float hts and try to start the bike..do you agree Steve???
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myown550
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I guess i can try as i have the carbs off right now. The reason i changed them is because on 2 of them the little spring was really soft, 1 was corroded and did not bounce and the other was stuck inside.
Soak them again over night and in the morning use some tweezers and try working them in and out to work them looser. The function of them is this. if the float height is just a little too high, they will compress a bit sort of like a shock absorber does its job. Keeps a little upward pressure on them..follow me?
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myown550
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Even with the floats being adjusted to specs?
Not the entire carbs.. I meant the original float needles. Resoak them and work the plunger thing up and down on them real good to see if they get better.
And yes..even to specs, they are compressed just a bit...like a shock absorber does when you let the car down off the jack. doesnt bottom out, but provides the cushioning effect.
And yes..even to specs, they are compressed just a bit...like a shock absorber does when you let the car down off the jack. doesnt bottom out, but provides the cushioning effect.
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myown550
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Ok, man thanks i will try this tomorrow and get back.
You said the carbs are off the bike right now..shoot me some numbers.
Measure the originals and the new ones from the very pointed tip to the very end of the springy plunger. I wll do the math and tell you what the float hts should be with the longer ones.
Measure the originals and the new ones from the very pointed tip to the very end of the springy plunger. I wll do the math and tell you what the float hts should be with the longer ones.
i was looking at your post 13. You said the "thingy" had to be bent a lot to get them in specs. I assume you mean the adjustment tab in the center. The problem with nthat is this. If its bent too far, youll jam the floats against the spring plungers side..It cant do the cantilevering action smoothly.
Since the carbs are off, gently lift the floats and feel for them binding on the plungers..youll know if its scraping and feels rough. I am beginning to think theres a bit of a combination of things happening in there.
I will PM ya my number..way easier to just talk than all this typing crap.
Since the carbs are off, gently lift the floats and feel for them binding on the plungers..youll know if its scraping and feels rough. I am beginning to think theres a bit of a combination of things happening in there.
I will PM ya my number..way easier to just talk than all this typing crap.
Anoher thing I thought of. Are the floats installed the right way? The way to tell is that you look at the posts on the carb body the hinge pin goes thru. The float metal plate has a stop tab bent at a 90 degree angle. That tab rests against the post and should be visible if the float is in the right way.
Also, look at the adjustment tab that contacts the spring plunger..you should not see any signs of a witness mark from the plunger marking up the tab. if you can see a little round witness mark thats a dead give away too.
Also, look at the adjustment tab that contacts the spring plunger..you should not see any signs of a witness mark from the plunger marking up the tab. if you can see a little round witness mark thats a dead give away too.
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DanTheMan
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Pay attention to what Chuck is telling you, he's spot on. He's got a lot of experience with these bikes. Good job, Chuck!
Steve
GS Whisperer
Hey, stop that. How am I going to get a free bike if you keep giving him advice like that?
They are all correct, your bike is not that hard to fix, and they are giving you good advice.
I was just going to help you dump it in the trash, like you wanted to at first.
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myown550
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Steve I never said I wasn't getting good response from anyone I absorb everything Chuck says.
Chuck I will give you a ring as soon as I get to the garage it just might be a few hours. Thanks
Chuck I will give you a ring as soon as I get to the garage it just might be a few hours. Thanks
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Take advantage of the offer
Take advantage of the offer
I can certainly appreciate that you want to do it yourself, but trust me, having Steve help you will also help you to learn so much about your bike, and he's a really nice guy, full of useful info, and, well, other interesting info as well!!
Take advantage of the offer
I can certainly appreciate that you want to do it yourself, but trust me, having Steve help you will also help you to learn so much about your bike, and he's a really nice guy, full of useful info, and, well, other interesting info as well!!
I agree on that Steve there hands on will be an experience of a priceless nature. He can point to this and tah and hands on show you many things that youll have questions on. Just foot him some gas money and some frostys and youll get one heck of a good days education!!!!
Like the old saying goes.."Its easier for me to show you than to try and explain it".
Like the old saying goes.."Its easier for me to show you than to try and explain it".
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You forgot about the rootbeer!!
